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re: So we went to pizzeria this eve and had the opportunity to get waited on by a tranny

Posted on 7/26/21 at 3:30 pm to
Posted by hnds2th
Member since May 2019
3096 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 3:30 pm to
SammyTiger

Do you have a daughter? How about a sister?

If you were dining alone with your nine year old daughter or sister, how comfortable are you today, allowing her to go into the women’s restroom alone? Understanding that men are now allowed into the women’s restroom, no questions asked, as long as they “identify” as female. Previously, a man in a women’s restroom would raise suspicions and the police would be called, not anymore.

Or, would you choose to accompany your nine year old daughter/sister into the men’s room, so you can keep her safe?

Those are the choices parents have to make these days.

My point is, everything isn’t black and white and this “I have my own truth/reality world and you have to respect it”, doesn’t make me a racist/bigot/misogynist/homophobe/hater.

I follow this truth, God made them male and female, and choose to impart that truth to my children, regardless of who that offends.

Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39874 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 3:33 pm to
quote:


Do you have a daughter? How about a sister?

If you were dining alone with your nine year old daughter or sister, how comfortable are you today, allowing her to go into the women’s restroom alone? Understanding that men are now allowed into the women’s restroom, no questions asked, as long as they “identify” as female. Previously, a man in a women’s restroom would raise suspicions and the police would be called, not anymore.

Or, would you choose to accompany your nine year old daughter/sister into the men’s room, so you can keep her safe?

Those are the choices parents have to make these days.

My point is, everything isn’t black and white and this “I have my own truth/reality world and you have to respect it”, doesn’t make me a racist/bigot/misogynist/homophobe/hater.

I follow this truth, God made them male and female, and choose to impart that truth to my children, regardless of who that offends.
Truly worried about shite that just never happens. If anyone wanted to prey on little kids in bathrooms, they aren't going to care what the fricking signs say. Same way criminals don't care about gun laws.

Stop being afraid of your own shadow and stop acting like it's ABOUT THE CHILDREN!!!!!
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 3:33 pm to
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The argument I suppose would be that with this new way of thinking sex is no longer used to determine gender. I tell you my gender or that I'm non-binary and that's that.


That's only if you accept that gender and sex are not connected, which I do not. This idea was mostly cooked up by second wave feminists and by psychologist John Money. This guy...

quote:

SEX REASSIGNMENT CONTROVERSY
Because Money believed that much of gendered behavior was arbitrary and learned rather than the product of biological drives, he was interested in the effects of sex reassignment surgery. In the 1960s, the son of Janet and Ronald Reimer experienced a botched circumcision that left him with a severely mangled penis. When John Money was consulted, he suggested that the boy be raised as a girl, and the child underwent sex reassignment surgery to remove his penis and testicles and create a rudimentary vulva.

Money used the case as evidence that gender is learned and not innate, demonstrating that the child had fully adapted to a female role as Brenda. However, Reimer claims he always felt more like a boy while growing up; in fact, as soon as the truth was revealed to Brenda as a teen, Brenda began to identify as male and changed his name to David. David Reimer later committed suicide at age 38.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 3:35 pm to
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For some reason your post made the song "lola" play in my head. The kinks were years ahead of their time.


Gender bending was pretty normal in the 70's. Instead of systemizing it, people just assumed some people were a little different.

I do think there are people who really believe they are trapped in the wrong body, but the rate of identification jumped from maybe .05% of the population to around 15% of zoomers and millennials.

I do believe that is a choice, and dont' weigh it as much as people who are committed to the change (undergo the knife.

So, to me transgender meant something at one time, now it's just something you choose to identify with regardless of sexuality. The movement has been taken over by the same old group that goes with the fad. Transexual vs Transgender.

Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29105 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 3:35 pm to
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I would try to "act normal," but I'm not sure that really backs up the argument that waiters should act and dress in ways that conform to their biological sex. Why can't they "act normal" too? Is that not a natural urge?
So the issue is that biological sex is not as cut and dry as many may hope and believe, and it follows that gender is similarly fuzzy. In these cases, whether there are obvious physical defects or very subtle chemical or purely mental ones, acting normal would be exactly that - an act.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9379 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 3:36 pm to
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Nothing really changed, except language and expectations.

We have always dealt with trannies. The new push is for political clout, which seems retarded based in identity.


Well there is also this gender fluidity trend among young people that I think is getting mixed the trans issues. Some young folks want to present themselves as deferent gender than their sex or non binary. They are not suffering from gender dysphoria or mentally ill, its just a fad but one that I think actually works against those that really do need help.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74894 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 3:37 pm to
says the dude copying and pasting MSNBC and CNN talking points. i don’t have OAN, FOX News, or Newsmax. nice try
Posted by Buck Wylde
Member since Jun 2019
480 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 3:37 pm to
Seriously. Good for you. Just because we are bombarded with this woke BS everyday doesn't make it OK or normal. Of course posting it here is a waste of time, unless you are trolling in which case ... Bravo Sir.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79455 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 3:38 pm to
My point isn’t that it is uncalled for to worry about your kids.

My point is pretending it’s trans people alone you should be worried about and that anti-trans laws are what’s keeping your kids safe is just misguided.

quote:

Or, would you choose to accompany your nine year old daughter/sister into the men’s room, so you can keep her safe?


I’d probably do this regardless of whether trans people can go in or not, up to a certain age, or stand outside the bathroom door till she got out.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 3:39 pm to
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Well there is also this gender fluidity trend among young people that I think is getting mixed the trans issues


Totally agree.

Transgender vs transsexual.

I don't recognize transgenders. I do recognize transsexuals.
Posted by jennBN
Member since Jun 2010
3250 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 3:42 pm to
You know from my previous posts that I sit to the left of Jesus Christ, however, I am concerned that the glorification of gender issues leads some lost people in the wrong direction. We all feel different, we all have days when we feel like we are in the wrong skin. An approach to those issues surgically should be as a last resort and after ample support and counseling has been provided. For the same reason I wish I would have waited until I was 30 to get tattooed I believe people should wait until they are 30 to make those surgical decisions.

Its not my body or my choice though so I essentially dont bother worrying about it on a daily basis.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59247 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 3:44 pm to
So we are talking about them demanding things now? I’m talking about just calling a trans person whatever stupid pronoun they request which I don’t mind one bit. You want me to call you something stupid then go for it, it’s your name not mine. I have enough actual problems going on in my life to let some strangers pronoun choice upset me.

I have a family member that is schitzo and at no point has anyone ever agreed to also hear the same auditory hallucinations just to appease him.
Posted by AU_Nomad
AL
Member since May 2021
720 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 3:45 pm to
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74894 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 3:45 pm to
ohhh gadknot, i almost forgot. how many times have you spammed that RA button because you didn’t agree with someone in this thread? 5,10,15 times?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 3:46 pm to
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so I essentially dont bother worrying about it on a daily basis.



I live in a place that's pretty far left, so I deal with it on an almost daily basis. I've never had a real issue with people who transitioned, it's the white women who coopt every issue and make it their own.

As with most issues, it's not the actual participants that make it a hot button issue, but the incredible amount of virtue signaling and the belief that you're somehow "phobic" if you don't support everything that's proposed.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9379 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 3:47 pm to
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That's only if you accept that gender and sex are not connected, which I do not. This idea was mostly cooked up by second wave feminists and by psychologist John Money. This guy..


They seem to be connected for most people but havent you ever been around a very effeminate man or masculine woman. I'm not talking about physical traits but just their personality? they may not suffer from gender dyphoria and desire to change their sex but their gender definitely leans more one way that the other. I guess I'm open to the discussion of the distinction b/t gender and sex. I find it fascinating. Where I have an issue is when it it comes to competition and safety.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 3:50 pm to
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I’m talking about just calling a trans person whatever stupid pronoun they request which I don’t mind one bit
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I just use their name. Some foolishness isn't worth participating in.

I don't think we do people favors by playing to their delusion.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29105 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 3:52 pm to
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If you're arguing that trans people demanding you treat them as female/male/non-binary is different than being asked to accommodate a schizophrenic person who hears voices by pretending you hear them too...

I'd like to know what the distinction is.
We can understand and acknowledge that a schizophrenic person hears things that we don't without pretending that we are also schizophrenic. Likewise we can understand and acknowledge that a trans person feels things that we don't without pretending to be trans as well.

Is that difficult for some to do?
Posted by gadknot
Reality
Member since Jul 2005
37306 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 3:53 pm to
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ohhh gadknot, i almost forgot. how many times have you spammed that RA button because you didn’t agree with someone in this thread? 5,10,15 times?




none
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74894 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 3:54 pm to
excellent. quite the improvement. i’m proud of you.
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