re: Snow on the ground in all 50 states, climate change is being downgraded

Has anyone decided what temp the earth is supposed to be?

NOAA published a 2017-2018 winter prediction paper on October 27 and so far 100% of it has been wrong

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OP is a tard

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Well that is just mean. Tards are people too, you racist, sexist, bigoted person.

I do not know why people cannot look at the data and step back with a clear mind and say wow we are making some big arse assumptions.

Are climate change resident experts are dropping their science bombs on us and ignoring the fact they mixing in 2 different models.

Since the 1700s we have been able to tell the temperature, before that we are using a different measurement. That measurement may be accurate, but not to the degree we are doing today.

We have become more precise with how we can measure global temp, but you cannot tell me what the precise global temperature was 300 years ago. We can make a educated guess, but it does not have the same accuracy.

That is the largest problem. Some people want to believe something so much, they refuse to step back and question it.


Edit - At least the pseudo science got the conversation started though. We should try to keep the world clean, we just should not use it for wealth re-distribution and to make politicians wealthier

65 in Denver today. Unseasonably warm all winter. Snowpack is at 50% of normal in the mountains.

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Marine geologist here that studies/works with ocean circulation, sediment sinks/sources, inlet dynamics, shoreline geomorphology, and paleoclimatology.

A large portion of my masters thesis revolved around the transgressing/regressing shorelines during the Pleistocene's major glacial maximums, interglacials, and glacial minimums.

It can be done independent of the thermometer being "invented in 1714

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I am interested. Can you use your non-thermometer based calculations to provide us the average global temperature of the 19th and 20th centuries? I think it would be interesting to see how it compares to actual temps.

No cheating and show your work.

You've come off pretty ignorant throughout this thread.

Arguing what kind of impact humans have on the climate is a far better approach than arguing whether or not the climate is getting warmer. Let's say the global temperature gets back to where it was 125,000 years ago, roughly 1-2 degrees Celsius warmer than it is now. Sea levels at that time were 4-6 meters higher than they are today. That's no bueno.

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Humans think they are way more important than they really are. Nothing on Earth can change, we live here dangit.

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This attitude assumes we've had no detrimental impact on the planet and should care less. No polluting of rivers, air, and oceans. No deforestation, etc. Do you believe that?

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This attitude assumes we've had no detrimental impact on the planet and should care less. No polluting of rivers, air, and oceans. No deforestation, etc. Do you believe that?

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Earth - over 4 billion years old
Modern Humans - 200,000 years old
Modern civilization - 6,000 years old

Dinousaurs (for reference) - around 180 million years of existance

There is so much on this planet and it's evolution we know nothing about. We would all be better realizing we do not know the absolute answers and we are making the best guess possible.