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Snow on the ground in all 50 states, climate change is being downgraded

Posted on 1/18/18 at 7:49 am
Posted by DarthRebel
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 7:49 am
UN's scare tactics not legit in new study

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Earth's surface will almost certainly not warm up four or five degrees Celsius by 2100, according to a study released Wednesday which, if correct, voids worst-case UN climate change predictions.


France News Link
Posted by The Mick
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 7:50 am to
Need to dig up that article about the scientists (maybe from UN or whatever) who were fabricating findings to fit the climate change movement. They actually found the trend to be opposite of what was being reported.


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In the summer of 2015, NOAA scientists published the Karl study, which retroactively altered historical climate change data and resulted in the elimination of a well-known climate phenomenon known as the “climate change hiatus.” The hiatus was a period between 1998 and 2013 during which the rate of global temperature growth slowed. This fact has always been a thorn in the side of climate change alarmists, as it became difficult to disprove the slowdown in warming.

The Karl study refuted the hiatus and rewrote climate change history to claim that warming had in fact been occurring.
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“Now that Dr. Bates has confirmed that there were heated disagreements within NOAA about the quality and transparency of the data before publication, we know why NOAA fought transparency and oversight at every turn. Dr. Bates’ revelations and NOAA’s obstruction certainly lend credence to what I’ve expected all along – that the Karl study used flawed data, was rushed to publication in an effort to support the president’s climate change agenda, and ignored NOAA’s own standards for scientific study

This post was edited on 1/18/18 at 7:55 am
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 7:53 am to
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Cox and colleagues, using a new methodology, have come up with a far narrower range: 2.2 C to 3.4 C, with a best estimate of 2.8 C (5 F).


So they narrowed the range? Good.

This is how science generally works. You improve your findings with better data and improved methods.

Funny how everyone is going ignore the fact that they also raised the lower range as well as lowering the higher range.

Posted by redstick13
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 7:56 am to
How are we supposed to plan for 2100 if they can't make their minds up?
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 7:56 am to
And again it is tough to prove that humans are responsible for the change

Posted by ThatMakesSense
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:00 am to
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Funny how everyone is going ignore the fact that they also raised the lower range as well as lowering the higher range. 


'Our first range was accurate within the updated range'
Posted by Bullfrog
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:00 am to
Remember “Don’t be fuelish” and 55 MPH speed limits because we were going to be out of gas in the 90’s?

They thrive on scare tactics from manufactured data to fit the narrative.
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:01 am to
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This is how science generally works. You improve your findings with better data and improved methods.


Interesting choice of words there. One does not improve one's findings, one just changes their findings. One may improve the accuracy of their findings. That way you can claim to be smarter than non- scientists.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:01 am to
Let’s keep the momentum going by imposing birth restrictions in South America, Africa, and “Asia” (the Middle East) which mandate that nations within must not exceed the birth rates of North America and Europe by more than .5 children per family.
This post was edited on 1/18/18 at 8:03 am
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:04 am to
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Need to dig up that article about the scientists (maybe from UN or whatever) who were fabricating findings to fit the climate change movement. They actually found the trend to be opposite of what was being reported.


None of this is accurate.
Posted by junior
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:05 am to
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Cox and colleagues, using a new methodology, have come up with a far narrower range: 2.2 C to 3.4 C, with a best estimate of 2.8 C (5 F).


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Even a 1.5 C increase will have consequences. A 3.5 (rise), could pull at the fabric of civilisation.


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The findings should not been seen as taking pressure off the need to tackle climate change, the authors and other experts warned.


So they have a more precise estimate of the effects of global warming influenced by humans?
What article did you read?
(good troll)
Posted by DarthRebel
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:05 am to
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This is how science generally works.


Come on Salmon, you cannot be part of the climate change religion.

I prefer my science to be absent of two things, religion and political funding.

Both of those items create fake science.

You also cannot deny, science is wrong more than right. That is key part of science.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:06 am to
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Come on Salmon, you cannot be part of the climate change religion


I'm not part of any religion.

Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:06 am to
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Snow on the ground in all 50 states, climate change is being downgraded


I always find it comical how people look at regional weather as proof for or against global warming.
Posted by DarthRebel
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:09 am to
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So they have a more precise estimate of the effects of global warming influenced by humans?
What article did you read?
(good troll)


They started off with, we were wrong. OK, but now we are right and it can still be bad. Just not as bad as we tried to scare you with before.

I wish people of the climate change religion could learn about history. What actually has happened is so much more important than what might happen.
Posted by DarthRebel
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:12 am to
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I always find it comical how people look at regional weather as proof for or against global warming.


I always find it funny how people look at the last 100 years to predict the climate was for the last 2 billion years.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84886 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:14 am to
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I wish people of the climate change religion could learn about history. What actually has happened is so much more important than what might happen


What do you think the trend is?

Posted by DarthRebel
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Member since Feb 2013
21246 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:14 am to
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I'm not part of any religion.


Yes, you are. You have exposed who you worship over the last year.

Deny all you want, but we member.

It is OK though, never be ashamed.
Posted by Salmon
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83579 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:15 am to
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I always find it funny how people look at the last 100 years to predict the climate was for the last 2 billion years.


Nobody does this
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32482 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:15 am to
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I prefer my science to be absent of two things, religion and political funding.



You should ignore all science since the beginning of time then.
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