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re: Smoking vs Vaping: They both will kill you

Posted on 10/24/19 at 11:35 pm to
Posted by GeauxOCDP
Member since Jul 2015
1067 posts
Posted on 10/24/19 at 11:35 pm to
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yeah inhaling vaporized propylene glycol or vegetable glycerine is safe


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propylene glycol is a “generally recognized as safe” (GRAS) additive for foods and medications. Propylene glycol rarely causes toxic effects, and then only under very unusual circumstances.


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Vegetable glycerin is particularly popular in the cosmetic industry but has several other uses as well. It may also provide health benefits, ranging from skin health to better hydration and a strengthened gut.





How can they be safe??!
They're big scary words!
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
19296 posts
Posted on 10/24/19 at 11:42 pm to
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Damn. I vaped yesterday for the first time. Never smoked before. Am I gonna die?
Yep, ain't no one made it off this earth without dying (except maybe a fella or 2 from the Old Testament).
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
31166 posts
Posted on 10/24/19 at 11:50 pm to
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yeah inhaling vaporized propylene glycol or vegetable glycerine is safe


Did you consider propylene glycol has been used in asthma inhalers and nebulizers for 60 or so years? So the medical community considers it safe for even people with compromised pulmonary function. While I am not arguing the totality of what is vaped is 100% safe it is clear you simply don't know what the frick you are talking about and just think chemical names mean toxic.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29911 posts
Posted on 10/25/19 at 12:14 am to
The ill effects of meth and heroun are well known, too, yet....
Posted by DustyDinkleman
Here
Member since Feb 2012
20374 posts
Posted on 10/25/19 at 3:24 am to
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yeah inhaling vaporized propylene glycol or vegetable glycerine is safe

no one goes to the hospital when they start smoking cigarettes either


10 Downvotes.

Well, we found at least 10 people here that are vaping

Posted by YNWA
Member since Nov 2015
7241 posts
Posted on 10/25/19 at 6:22 am to
Anything you breathe in on a consistent basis, besides oxygen, is not good for you. It's just common sense.
Posted by xrockfordf150x
Walker, LA
Member since Sep 2008
3996 posts
Posted on 10/25/19 at 6:52 am to
Nitrogen says hello.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
30460 posts
Posted on 10/25/19 at 6:56 am to
When you ask a vaper about it they say "it's just vape, well what's vape "it's harmless".

No one knows what this stuff will do yet, the real results will be out in 15-20 years.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
48601 posts
Posted on 10/25/19 at 7:05 am to
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yeah inhaling vaporized propylene glycol or vegetable glycerine is safe

no one goes to the hospital when they start smoking cigarettes either


10 Downvotes.

Well, we found at least 10 people here that are vaping



Or 10 people who actually understand science rather than sensationalized pop science headlines.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
48601 posts
Posted on 10/25/19 at 7:13 am to
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Anything you breathe in on a consistent basis, besides oxygen, is not good for you.
so air is bad for you? Got it.

Nitrogen N2 78.084
Oxygen O2 20.947
Argon Ar 0.934
Carbon dioxide CO2 0.0350
Neon Ne 0.001818
Helium He 0.000524
Methane CH4 0.00017
Krypton Kr 0.000114
Hydrogen H2 0.000053
Nitrous oxide N2O 0.000031
Xenon Xe 0.0000087
Ozone* O3 trace to 0.0008
Carbon monoxide CO trace to 0.000025
Sulfur dioxide SO2 trace to 0.00001
Nitrogen dioxide NO2 trace to 0.000002
Ammonia NH3 trace to 0.0000003

Not included in above dry atmosphere

Water vapor(C) 0–3 %
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 10/25/19 at 7:14 am to
So will drinking
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
48601 posts
Posted on 10/25/19 at 7:16 am to
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relax, Darwin's got this


Great, another science illiterate who doesn’t actually know what Darwin’s theories say but feels like he’s being witty or clever when he espouse this sort of crap
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80825 posts
Posted on 10/25/19 at 7:26 am to
I don't smoke or vape, but I downloaded because I dislike hysterics and bullshite.
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
13194 posts
Posted on 10/25/19 at 7:48 am to
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propylene glycol is a “generally recognized as safe” (GRAS) additive for foods and medications. Propylene glycol rarely causes toxic effects, and then only under very unusual circumstances.

Vegetable glycerin is particularly popular in the cosmetic industry but has several other uses as well. It may also provide health benefits, ranging from skin health to better hydration and a strengthened gut.


Congratulations, you’re an idiot. What other food additives do you inhale? You should inhale some charcoal dust, it’s completely safe to eat.
Google is going to kill you. No difference whatsoever between the digestive system and the respiratory system.
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
13194 posts
Posted on 10/25/19 at 7:56 am to
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Great, another science illiterate who doesn’t actually know what Darwin’s theories say but feels like he’s being witty or clever when he espouse this sort of crap

Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
20778 posts
Posted on 10/25/19 at 8:18 am to
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Congratulations, you’re an idiot. What other food additives do you inhale


If you think propylene glycol is simply a food additive then you're the idiot. Take the L and move on
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
48601 posts
Posted on 10/25/19 at 8:26 am to
Posted by Chelsea Blue
Northshore
Member since Oct 2019
156 posts
Posted on 10/25/19 at 8:30 am to
The smokers and vapers are making themselves well known in this thread.




Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17843 posts
Posted on 10/25/19 at 9:11 am to
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propylene glycol
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glycerin

Both can have some type of decomposition at the temperature and pressure used with vaping devices.
Posted by BiggerBear
Redbone Country
Member since Sep 2011
3164 posts
Posted on 10/25/19 at 9:17 am to
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It is absolutely safer


It is safer, there is no question. In the same way, it is safer to shoot yourself in the leg than it is to shoot yourself in the head. Vaping is, however, equally as stupid as smoking.
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