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re: Smith Shooter's Lawyer "My Client Was Not The Aggressor"
Posted on 4/12/16 at 4:21 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Posted on 4/12/16 at 4:21 pm to JohnnyKilroy
His head was getting crushed into a sidewalk.
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 4:22 pm to southernelite
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No matter how retarded driving drunk, hitting someone, and driving off is, which we don't know yet if that's the case, its not a cause to get gunned down.
What about: driving drunk, hitting someone, and driving off then having the guy catch up and bump into you at which point you declare you have a gun and lean into your vehicle.
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 4/12/16 at 4:22 pm to Lester Earl
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why is that significant to you?
It was his left arm and it is significant as to his position when he was shot. Photos show his toes pointing toward the passenger side of the vehicle.
I know you won't agree with me but he could have been grabbing on to the steering wheel to get back in to the SUV after one of the bullets hit him or in the alternative, that's how he could have fallen once gunned down.
The fact is that none of us know any significant details and there are a million and one possibilities.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 4:23 pm to arseinclarse
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His head was getting crushed into a sidewalk.
No shite.
I left that part out.
Similar to how bencoleman is leaving out the part of Hayes and Smith getting into a verbal altercation with Smith declaring he had a gun.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 4:25 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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verbal
Not the same as getting your head crushed.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 4:26 pm to Scooba
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then having the guy catch and bump into you
Haha. Awesome.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 4:27 pm to BRgetthenet
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Not the same as getting your head crushed.
What matters is if hayes had a reasonable belief that he was in imminent danger of severe bodily harm or death, AND that he was not the aggressor.
That question is unanswerable based on the limited information we have right now.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 4:28 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Similar to how bencoleman is leaving out the part of Hayes and Smith getting into a verbal altercation with Smith declaring he had a gun
Oh you mean the part where Smith begged Hayes to leave him alone and get away from him or he had a gun at which point your hero stated that he had one too, pulled it out and lit Smith and his wife up
Posted on 4/12/16 at 4:29 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Why did he chase him down and shoot him?
He could have just let him go. Not sure why he had to pursue him, then hit his car, then shoot him to death.
That part is still unclear.
He could have just let him go. Not sure why he had to pursue him, then hit his car, then shoot him to death.
That part is still unclear.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 4:31 pm to BRgetthenet
Hood justice. No way he was going to just watch him drive off
Posted on 4/12/16 at 4:32 pm to bencoleman
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your hero
How is he my hero? He sounds like a douchebag to me.
Do we have facts that show Smith didn't make a move to draw/retrieve his weapon between
quote:and
your hero stated that he had one too
quote:?
pulled it out
Posted on 4/12/16 at 4:32 pm to bencoleman
Where are people defending Hayes?
Making assumptions then being proven incorrect on those assumptions and still trying to make it look like your assumptions are facts are beyond borderline retarted. But carry on with your stupidity.
Hayes admitted that he killed Smith. The question is: how much of a part did Smith play in his own death?
Is it a Murder, a Homicide, or was it justifiable? No one knows, but don't let that stop you from being a dumbass.
Making assumptions then being proven incorrect on those assumptions and still trying to make it look like your assumptions are facts are beyond borderline retarted. But carry on with your stupidity.
Hayes admitted that he killed Smith. The question is: how much of a part did Smith play in his own death?
Is it a Murder, a Homicide, or was it justifiable? No one knows, but don't let that stop you from being a dumbass.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 4:34 pm to BRgetthenet
Also unclear why a cold blooded murderer would dial 911 and stay on the scene to wait for the police.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 4:34 pm to BRgetthenet
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That part is still unclear.
This is what I've been arguing the entire time. It is still unclear what happened between the verbal altercation and the shooting. If nothing of note happened, then Hayes is going to spend the rest of his life in prison. If Smith made a move for his gun (if Smith did have a gun) then maybe not. We do not know.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 4:34 pm to TigerFred
Manslaughter
Posted on 4/12/16 at 4:35 pm to TigerFred
Great post Larry
Posted on 4/12/16 at 4:36 pm to TigerFred
If you don't believe Hayes should be put to death before Friday, it means you are white knighting for him in this thread.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 4:41 pm to tigerpimpbot
I for one am starting to think Will Smith did cause 50% of this outcome.
why would he say he has a gun if he didn't?
why would he say he has a gun if he didn't?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 4:42 pm to BRgetthenet
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pursue him
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then hit his car
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then shoot him to death
Are you treating this like Hayes peeled off with the intent to ram Smith's car and then murder the people in the car?
Or that he peeled off to chase the guy who fled the scene of a hit and run. The cause of Hayes running into Smith is unknown as is what caused the confrontation and then gunfire?
I encourage everyone:
Upvote is you believe scenario 1
Downvote if you believe scenario 2
Posted on 4/12/16 at 4:43 pm to rt3
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Responding officers did not locate any visible weapons other than the gun authorities believe Hayes used to kill Smith and wound Racquel Smith, NOPD spokesman Tyler Gamble has said. All of the shell casings recovered at the scene matched that weapon, Gamble added.
Investigators impounded all three vehicles involved in the chain-reaction crash. Gamble said police were still searching each vehicle for evidence, including the existence of any other weapons. But, he added, the outcome of that search would likely not be made public, for now, to avoid jeopardizing the department's investigation.
interesting choice of words used. and that they wont disclose what they find in the vehicles. would a gun in the console be considered "not a visible weapon". and if it was in there the public wouldnt know about it until after this initial rush of public scrutiny?
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