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re: Smith Shooter's Lawyer "My Client Was Not The Aggressor"

Posted on 4/11/16 at 2:46 pm to
Posted by Grit-Eating Shin
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 2:46 pm to
I don't think it was a necessarily "smug & aloof" expression. All that you can say for sure is that the corner of his mouth is raised; you don't know why. He may have been saying something, or possibly even grimacing. Everything else is just an assumption based on very little.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 2:50 pm to
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Everything in me hopes I am wrong, but that trial in Florida a few years ago should be the playbook for the defense in this case.


How is this even in the same realm? Even if Smith said I have a gun and reached into his vehicle, dude shot him in the back. He should have retreated back to his vehicle and deescalated the situation. It doesn't appear that smith physically attacked Hayes.
Posted by Salamander_Wilson
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 2:51 pm to


Would it be safe for me to assume from this picture that he is an a-hole?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127909 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 2:53 pm to
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Big time. The defense is going to make him look like the worst person in the world at trial.



The defense is not going to be able to get the spousal abuse or any of his suspensions into evidence.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 3:08 pm to
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Travers Mackel ?@TraversMackel 9m9 minutes ago
Will Smith Murder Update: Defense Attorney John Fuller says early investigation 'indicates' 2nd gun found at scene. More @wdsu 4/5/6
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Posted by Boomshockalocka
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 3:11 pm to
uhoh
Posted by arseinclarse
Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 3:13 pm to
Why the use of the parentheses?
Posted by Scooba
Member since Jun 2013
20005 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 3:16 pm to
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over a fender bender


Did you read any of this thread? Have you followed any of the details since 5 min after the story broke. There is way more to this story than a fender bender. And you're calling me a clown.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 3:17 pm to
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uhoh


not really.

you really think cops didn't know this when they still charged hayes w/ 2nd degree?
This post was edited on 4/11/16 at 3:18 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 3:18 pm to
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you really think cops didn't know this when they still charged hayes w/ 2nd degree?



It's NOPD...
Posted by Scooba
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 3:19 pm to
As someone said earlier, they were specific with their words for a reason. "Only 1 gun was confiscated from the scene."
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
23955 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 3:19 pm to
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How is this even in the same realm? Even if Smith said I have a gun and reached into his vehicle, dude shot him in the back. He should have retreated back to his vehicle and deescalated the situation. It doesn't appear that smith physically attacked Hayes.


This just illustrates the different standard we have for cops and citizens. Put a cop in the same situation and the shooting is entirely justified according to the law and the majority of the public.

But in this case, it's murder because it's two citizens.

Strange.

You would think it would be the opposite with the higher standard applied to the one with actual training.
Posted by TigerWise
Front Seat of an Uber
Member since Sep 2010
35131 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 3:20 pm to
Will made the mistake of telling the guy he had a gun.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
176016 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 3:20 pm to
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This just illustrates the different standard we have for cops and citizens. Put a cop in the same situation and the shooting is entirely justified according to the law and the majority of the public.

But in this case, it's murder because it's two citizens.

Strange.

You would think it would be the opposite with the higher standard applied to the one with actual training.



this is fricking retarded. Hayes was not behaving professionally and from reports was instigating aggression and wanting to fight will smith in the street.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127909 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 3:21 pm to
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Why the use of the parentheses?



Aren't you a lawyer? You know why. Its lawyer talk.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 3:22 pm to
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i dont think you know what unstable means








No. I don't think you do
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15013 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 3:22 pm to
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This just illustrates the different standard we have for cops and citizens. Put a cop in the same situation and the shooting is entirely justified according to the law and the majority of the public.


What? No it would not. Completely false statement.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44808 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 3:22 pm to
The video of the white dude on the scene stated this. That is why the shooter never left the scene. Smith said he had a gun and shooter said I do too. That will "back up" their claim of self defense. Now I doubt the law allows u to shoot someone if the other person just infers they are going to shoot you first but I don't know.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
176016 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 3:24 pm to
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The video of the white dude on the scene stated this. That is why the shooter never left the scene. Smith said he had a gun and shooter said I do too. That will "back up" their claim of self defense.



you aren't giving the complete picture of what witness said in the video.
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
23955 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 3:24 pm to
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What? No it would not. Completely false statement.


bullshite. Guy says, "I'm going to go get a gun," to a cop, walks to his car, reaches in, he gets shot in the back because the cop was in fear of his life.

It's happened more than once.
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