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Small claims court questions

Posted on 3/4/19 at 1:46 pm
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 1:46 pm
Would it be advisable to call the other party first and notify them of my intentions to file a claim, giving them one last chance to pony up, or would it be better to just go ahead and file and let them find out when the statement of claim comes in the mail?

Also, would a recorded phone call with him discussing what he owes me be admissible to back up my claim? I have other proof, that has his signature, but I'm still curious if that's allowed.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
124823 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 1:48 pm to
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questions


Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

Would it be advisable to call the other party first and notify them of my intentions to file a claim, giving them one last chance to pony up, or would it be better to just go ahead and file and let them find out when the statement of claim comes in the mail?

no

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would a recorded phone call with him discussing what he owes me be admissible to back up my claim?


that would turn the tables greatly.... against you
Posted by dtett
Jiggacity
Member since Oct 2018
565 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 1:49 pm to
IANAL, but Louisiana is a one party consent state. So the recording is legal. Not sure how much weight it would hold.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 1:57 pm to
Let's say that I still have admin status of his business facebook account. Half of the under 100 likes are people I invited off my friends list who really don't gaf about his business anyway. Probably a bad idea to delete the people I know before I remove myself as admin, huh?
This post was edited on 3/4/19 at 1:59 pm
Posted by BayouBandit24
Member since Aug 2010
17239 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 1:58 pm to
Yes. Terrible idea.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 2:03 pm to
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Half of the under 100 likes are people I invited off my friends list who really don't gaf about his business anyway.


no thats account tampering which you arent empowered to do even though you have the ability.

just mass message them all letting them know you are leaving with a brief explanation as to why and then its up to them to unlike and leave the group if they wish.

they may not care or they might leave, that is their decision to make, not yours
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 2:11 pm to
Consult a lawyer in real life. Do not talk to them yourself, get a lawyer to communicate with them. Though filing a claim will obviously show them you're serious.
This post was edited on 3/4/19 at 2:12 pm
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 2:14 pm to
Gotcha. I haven't worked for this dude since before Christmas so anybody who knows me knows that by now. I tried to give him time because it's still a new business and I know thats a struggle, but now it's been over 3 weeks since I even heard from him. I built the Facebook page for him and it's been dormant since I quit, but I left myself as admin on purpose. I don't think he's even noticed, but I just figured if anybody said anything about me still having control of the page that I could just say I forgot about it
Posted by djangochained
Gardere
Member since Jul 2013
19183 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 2:16 pm to
Facebook ??
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
73677 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 2:28 pm to
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would a recorded phone call with him discussing what he owes me be admissible to back up my claim?


What do the laws in your state say about permission to record other parties?
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
20645 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 2:36 pm to
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that would turn the tables greatly.... against you


Explain yourself. Most states have a least a one party consent law.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
32372 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 2:40 pm to
has this person paid anything?

do you know where he banks?

if you do not know where his bank account is, a judgement is not very helpful

if you know where he lives, you can possibly get a lean on his home (or other assets, unless he is protected by a corporation)

if you know where he banks, executing the judgement will be A LOT easier - you don't even have to have his account number, just know what name the account is under

good luck
Posted by Eric Stratton
Faber College
Member since Mar 2015
2056 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 2:48 pm to
Louisiana is a one party state.... one party consents then recording a conversation is legal. Might not be admissible in court but it's not gonna weigh against you.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 2:50 pm to
Looks like Alabama is a one party consent state, for those asking about that.



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has this person paid anything?


One week after I quit he paid me ~30% of what he owed me. That was a couple of days before Christmas. Nothing since. Been over 3 weeks now since the last time he gave me excuses.


quote:

do you know where he banks?


Yes. I even know what branch he goes to.

quote:

if you know where he lives, you can possibly get a lean on his home (or other assets, unless he is protected by a corporation)


I know where his apartment was when I started working for him. Not sure if he still has. For a While I believe he was living in a spare room in his business but I can't prove that and I have no idea if that is still the case


Thank you
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 3:08 pm to
well if you created it and he let it go unused since you left, then i guess you can just delete the group page and just be done.

he can then create his own group page without you being a part of it if he wants to.

but this all hangs on if its just a personal group page used as a business, or if it was a dedicated business page you created and operated for him, thats where it gets murky
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
7022 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 3:11 pm to
Just my opinion, but sometimes its easier to just cut your losses and move on. Small claims court will suck the life out of you!
Posted by Tigereye10005
New York, NY
Member since Sep 2016
1592 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 4:06 pm to
quote:

Would it be advisable to call the other party first and notify them of my intentions to file a claim, giving them one last chance to pony up, or would it be better to just go ahead and file and let them find out when the statement of claim comes in the mail?


Depends on the issue. Based on the thread this seems to be some dispute over wages. I'd say the answer here is that it depends on the strength of your position and whether you would accept some type of partial payment.

I can also say that small claims courts look favorably on someone that tried to settle a claim before filing, and since small claims can be a craps shoot, any little tick in your favor helps.

You don't lose anything by notifying him in advance when you think about it. He will get the notice of claim well in advance of the date and will have plenty of time to consult a lawyer, counterclaim, etc or whatever it is you're worried that he'll do once he learns of the claim. But you also don't lose much by not telling him either. If he expects that he's in the wrong, he'll probably be just as willing to settle with you whether or not you give him advance notice.

The only risk you run of notifying him is if you think he'll just zero out his business account and shut down once he thinks you're filing against him. That's pretty unlikely but it definitely could happen.

Basically this is all to say that it's a judgment call on your part. If you think letting him know you're willing to file a claim will make him take you seriously and settle, it might be the right way to go. If you think he's just going to get pissed off either way, probably not worth notifying him in advance.

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Also, would a recorded phone call with him discussing what he owes me be admissible to back up my claim? I have other proof, that has his signature, but I'm still curious if that's allowed.

It's small claims court, it's basically a coin flip as to what they'll let you admit into evidence. The court just does whatever they want in these things.
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