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re: Sir Winston Churchill was a BOSS.

Posted on 7/9/24 at 12:04 am to
Posted by Trout34
River Ridge
Member since Apr 2008
242 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 12:04 am to
Churchill is hated in Australia and New Zealand. He would send in the soldiers from both countries to die while weakening the enemy. After that British troops would come in and grab the glory.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133490 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 12:20 am to
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It was sorta compare to firing an AK on full auto.
Fun Fact Trivia: Three days ago, July 6, was the anniversary of the day in 1947 when the AK-47 went into full mass production in the Soviet Union, following several years of trial and error with its design by its inventor, Mikhail Kalashnikov.


Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37467 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 1:06 am to
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I forget the wine brand but he allegedly drank 42,000 bottles of it in his lifetime.
You're thinking of the Sir Winston that posts here and it was actually 42,000 special edition cans of Bud Light from last summer.
Posted by WWII Collector
Member since Oct 2018
8566 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 4:46 am to
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I have this same gun, the Thompson's drum was quickly replaced for a magazine at the request of Allied soldiers.


Full auto?
Posted by Paradiddler
in a groove
Member since Jul 2016
1320 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 6:24 am to
Spray guns don't really need to be accurate
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
14256 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 6:40 am to
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got a week ban for this


Wtf
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
23641 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 7:24 am to
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Churchill is hated in Australia and New Zealand. He would send in the soldiers from both countries to die while weakening the enemy. After that British troops would come in and grab the glory.

Churchill and England certainly weren't the only ones to ever do that. France did it all the time in WW1. That was one of the "benefits" of having colonies at the time.
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
7245 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 8:28 am to
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Let’s hear your Monday AM quarterbacking of his decisions during WW2.


1940- Churchill's Own Cabinet Wanted Peace

This isn't controversial history. Nor is it revisionist history. The Germans were very open to peace settlement with the English. Pat Buchanan wrote an entire book about it.

Look around, boss. Our common history of this conflict is dangerously misconstrued.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
32129 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 8:45 am to
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Churchill is hated in Australia and New Zealand.


Funny, my SIL is Australian and she's never said a cross word about Churchill, and her dad fought in the Pacific.

And I mostly posted this because of how much Churchill looks like a 1920's gangster in the original photo. I thought the OT would pick up on it as well....
This post was edited on 7/9/24 at 8:48 am
Posted by TigerHornII
Member since Feb 2021
1154 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 9:00 am to
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Let’s hear your Monday AM quarterbacking of his decisions during WW2.


1940- Churchill's Own Cabinet Wanted Peace

This isn't controversial history. Nor is it revisionist history. The Germans were very open to peace settlement with the English. Pat Buchanan wrote an entire book about it.

Look around, boss. Our common history of this conflict is dangerously misconstrued.


Because peace worked so well the first time Chamberlain tried it just a year or two earlier? The Poles were loving it I'm sure. What is your point? You're doing a horrible job of getting it across. By 1940, there was no other viable path forward with Germany and Japan.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
72103 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 9:43 am to
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This isn't controversial history. Nor is it revisionist history. The Germans were very open to peace settlement with the English. Pat Buchanan wrote an entire book about it.

Look around, boss. Our common history of this conflict is dangerously misconstrued.


Peace with Hitler?
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
6803 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 9:52 am to
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Following Winston Churchill’s routine for a day

7.30 — Wake up, remain in bed, eat breakfast, read newspapers, work, glass of whiskey and soda.

11:00 — Out of bed, stroll around garden supervising estate, whiskey and soda.

13:00 — Multi-course lunch, imperial pint of Champagne.

15:30 — Work from study, glass of cognac.

17:00 — Hour and a half nap/siesta, a habit acquired during his time in Cuba.

18:30 — Wake up, bath, dress for dinner.

20:00 — Lengthly dinner with guests, imperial pint of Champagne.

00:00 — Work in study, more cognac.

01:00–03:00 — Bedtime.
Posted by Big Block Stingray
Top down on open road
Member since Feb 2009
2055 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 9:55 am to
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Eh, I thought the issue was not some request from the soldiers, but that the drums cost like 30x as much to manufacture as the regular stick magazines; you sure not? A lot of guns, the Tommy guns being prime examples, got simplified for wartime production, making them both faster and less expensive to manufacture. As example: my 1943 Springfield Armory M-1 (Garand) has stuff like the nice trigger guard, but later ones got simplified stamped ones.


Issue with the drum was it was notorious for jamming in the field and very heavy to carry. Mags where lighter, didn't jam and actually saved lives.

Drum looks cooler for sure.
Posted by Big Block Stingray
Top down on open road
Member since Feb 2009
2055 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 9:57 am to
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Full auto?


Nice try Mr. FBI man...
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
24726 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 9:59 am to
Baw didn’t give a frick about working out and lived until 90 years old
Posted by MAROON
Houston
Member since Jul 2012
2311 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 10:08 am to
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quote:
Let’s hear your Monday AM quarterbacking of his decisions during WW2.


1940- Churchill's Own Cabinet Wanted Peace

This isn't controversial history. Nor is it revisionist history. The Germans were very open to peace settlement with the English. Pat Buchanan wrote an entire book about it.

Look around, boss. Our common history of this conflict is dangerously misconstrued.


And Churchill was 100% correct to not seek peace with Hitler. Anyone who thought peace would last is and was an idiot. Exhibit A - Joseph Stalin and Russia thought they had peace with Germany.

Churchill was the strong man and leader the world needed at that time.
This post was edited on 7/9/24 at 10:09 am
Posted by TigerHornII
Member since Feb 2021
1154 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 10:09 am to
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Issue with the drum was it was notorious for jamming in the field and very heavy to carry. Mags where lighter, didn't jam and actually saved lives.

Drum looks cooler for sure.


All that and the drum rattled - you couldn't sneak up on people with it, and the gun was favored by commando units. Tankers also liked it, and in a cramped tank with a tight hatch to exit from, the big drum was a liability.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
38814 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 10:13 am to
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Churchill prolonged the war. I once admired him, but no longer.


Correct. Churchill was damned near as bad a strategist as Hitler.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
23641 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 10:40 am to
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isn't controversial history. Nor is it revisionist history. The Germans were very open to peace settlement with the English.

Well, Hitler broke every treaty/settlement that been made with Germany so it wouldn't have done any good. He kept on going after anything in front of the German army precisely because people like Neville Chamberlain and Daladier didn't do a damn thing when he broke those agreements. Hell, they ran to Munich and signed over the Sudetenlands at the mere threat of war from Hitler.

So Churchill was correct in not going along with his cabinet. It was full of Neville Chamberlains.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
22894 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 10:45 am to

I’ve used a tommy gun, but not while smoking a cigar and wearing a top hat. I’m envious.
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