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re: Simple question for anyone complaining about the situation in Texas

Posted on 2/18/21 at 5:04 pm to
Posted by C-Bear
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Posted on 2/18/21 at 5:04 pm to
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Posted by C-Bear
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Posted on 2/18/21 at 5:14 pm to
Hey smarta$$, we did winterize. We have a generator, we had, and still do have plenty of food and water, pipes were wrapped, water left dripping, no need for firewood since we have a gas fireplace. What we didn’t count on was the power generating companies not coming remotely close to doing theirs.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 2/18/21 at 5:14 pm to
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I haven't read where they have had major outages or reason to complain.



I've been so busy keeping a few homes up and running so I haven't been watching much news, just got internet back yesterday? I think, who's complaining? not being sarcastic, everyone around here seems to be helping everyone else out and just dealing with it
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/18/21 at 5:19 pm to
Yeah, for the record I also insulated my exterior faucets and had a constant drip on both sides of the house and upstairs.
Posted by TexasTiger90
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Jul 2014
3576 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 5:49 pm to
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I’m just asking why you would expect someone else to prepare for you if you didn’t think it was necessary to prepare?
Because normal people aren't in charge of infrastructure? How do you prepare for your pipes bursting and flooding your house in the deadass middle of a brutal winter storm that's totally uncharacteristic of the location you live in?
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 2/18/21 at 5:52 pm to
I did the same thing I always do for hard freezes. The only additional thing I did for this was get a propane heater and drip the faucets longer. Glad I got the heater because I had no power for 48 hours when the temp was 7 the first night and in the teens the 2nd night. Fortunately I didn’t have any issues other than the power.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 2/18/21 at 5:54 pm to
I live in Texas, am affected by all of this and am dealing with this. It never ceases to amaze me at the overall stupidity and gross buffoonery of the majority of people that post here. I don’t normally defend Texans, but frick all of you maroons piling on.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35623 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 6:01 pm to
It's the power grid, a fundamental piece of infrastructure for modern life.

You have a situation where the market doesn't incentivize mitigating enough risk when you're talking about something that you need working for modern life to function. This is where government is useful, to require them to (or just pay for) them to winterize their shite because it is so important.

Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 6:03 pm to
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How do you prepare for your pipes bursting and flooding your house in the deadass middle of a brutal winter storm that's totally uncharacteristic of the location you live in?


Exactly. I wouldn’t expect anyone to be prepared for this. Even the power companies. It’s a natural disaster.

I think you are misunderstanding my point. I’m just defending the power companies. Its frustrating to see people blame lack of regulation and a free energy market as causes for an “uncharacteristic” event. It’s an unpopular opinion apparently.
This post was edited on 2/18/21 at 6:05 pm
Posted by Fletch1985
Member since Jun 2020
281 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 6:06 pm to
Does anyone have one of these and care to provide a product review?

I use a mr buddy propane heater but have to be careful about CO so somewhat defeats the purpose when you crack a window.

Does the kerosene avoid this? Does it emit smoke/odor? Is it actually kerosene or camp fuel? Where can you buy kerosene reliably?

Seriously interested. Looks like a potentially better product for emergencies. The mr buddy works great for camping but has limitations for emergencies.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38690 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 6:22 pm to
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Did you buy a generator, a kerosene space heater, stock firewood and water in preparation for the winter?



I have a generator, I dont have a wood burning fireplace but I do have 3 tanks of propane and 4 burners I could've used for cooking, I did fill 4 5 gallon buckets with water for flushing toilets and have a berke water filter that I can put pond water, etc in and drink what it filters. I also put extra insulation wrap on outside hose bibs, and taped up drafty window and doors in my 90 year old house. I've done other winterization in past such as increasing attic insulation and double glazed windows. I also have a shotgun rifle and a 4 wheel drive cuz a city boy can survive.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 6:23 pm to
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It’s an unpopular opinion apparently


Because everything you said is retarded.
Posted by TigerFred
Feeding hamsters
Member since Aug 2003
27174 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 6:24 pm to
It’s a freeze. The power company should be prepared. There lack of preparedness made it a disaster.

Thinking it’s a good idea to run a kerosene heater indoors is proof you’re an idiot.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 6:25 pm to
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Almost nobody does this in the south where winters may give us a couple of days below freezing.


BS, icing in the winter is anything but rare in many areas of TX and La. usually just not as widespread as this storm. There are many other events that that can leave homes without power besides a ice storm. High winds, just neighbors dead tree can take down power lines leaving a home with no heat. Anyone that has not given any thought to what they are going to do if they are without power for a few days in the winter are just stupid. My power has been out for 3 days, as soon as I gauged the severity of the situation I did what I had already planned years ago, and never needed until now, as did a lot of people around me, the result being a comfortable 3 days.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 6:29 pm to
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It’s a freeze. The power company should be prepared. There lack of preparedness made it a disaster.


You have no concept of the complexity of the energy supply chain the power companies rely on for fuel. The generating plants are totally operational, the fuel supply cannot meet demand which is not something they own or have control of.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58071 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 6:39 pm to
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Like I said, the power plant could have been fine and a tree could take out the power line to your house.



If the power had stayed fine the entire state wouldn't be paralyzed which would have meant your power could be fixed within a matter of hours and you could easily go elsewhere if it was going to take longer.


Also GTFO w/this 100 year storm BS excuse. They knew for decades they needed to prepare the infrastructure for an event like this. We've had freezing weather cause massive blackouts before. This is not some unknowable event. Our power grid got jacked by cold weather as recently as 2011. This is not people i charge being surprised by something they never could have foreseen.

Defending the power companies for not preparing for freezing weather is like defending the makers of the Titanic for not having enough lifeboats for all the people on board or watertight compartments that went to the top of the ship. The only reason they didn't do it was b/c they didn't want to spend the money b/c it would cut into profits. Period. End of story.
This post was edited on 2/18/21 at 6:50 pm
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39323 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 6:45 pm to
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Every outcome can’t be planned for perfectly. And if they did go overboard with every preventative measure people would be complaining that their bill was too high.

It’s Monday morning QBing. It will never change.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39323 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 6:48 pm to
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Its no secret that you're kind of a self righteous dickhead on here. Why don't you wait until they have power and running water before showing your arse?

His point is correct. Folks want cheap power. To get cheap power the power company can’t prepare for every contingency. This is a rare event (The climate changists are blaming it on warming, lol).
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12505 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 6:50 pm to
I fricked up because for all the storm hardening, off grid capable blah blah shite we have at our place in West Texas, I haven’t done any of that at our primary residence in Houston. We always head out there for storms or anything shitty (hurricanes, zombies, etc). But this one caught me off guard and we couldn’t run into the storm. But good news is everything out there performed as expected so I just need to start doing some work on this one.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39323 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 6:51 pm to
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Do you think there was enough supply of these items in Texas for every person to run out and purchase them all before the storm arrived?

Do YOU think the power company could have prepared with the same short notice? Of course not. Both the power company and the consumers have known a brutal cold was possible since they were capable of rational thought.
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