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re: Simple question for anyone complaining about the situation in Texas

Posted on 2/18/21 at 3:32 pm to
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 3:32 pm to
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You put that in a small interior room and you will be sweating. No one will freeze


Probably, but it does nothing for your pipes.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85040 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 3:33 pm to
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Again, I’m not blaming anyone for not being prepared. I wouldn’t expect them to be. This is a 50-100 year storm.
The original post and a few others up till this one remind me of the people from virginia making fun of us who flooded in 2016. As if we should have known better by living in louisiana that this could happen and we should have either 1) prepared better or 2) not lived here at all. Don't be such an arse.
Posted by Tbonepatron
Member since Aug 2013
8447 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 3:33 pm to
I honestly think that the recent prevalence of snow over the last 10 - 12 years around Houston has made people complacent. The last couple events were no big deal. Kids played in the snow for a day we were off of work and school for 2 days and then everything back to normal. Very few power outages and certainly not for as long.

I was “prepared” because I go camping several times a year in ~40 deg weather so I already had a lot of the cold weather stuff, a bunch of extra drinking water and I try to keep at least a weeks worth of food that requires little or no cooking.
This post was edited on 2/18/21 at 3:36 pm
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37136 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 3:34 pm to
Do you wear the heaviest maxi pad, even on your expected lighter days?
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 3:35 pm to
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Some people went 80 hours without power or water, that’s inexcusable


I mean I guess. How many extreme situations should the plant prepare for?

This storm got down to 0 degrees.

Should they prep down to -10 degrees. How far? When does it stop?

There are earthquakes in Texas. How high of a magnitude should they be prepared for? 4, 6, 8?

Should they prep for a caldera explosion in Yellowstone?

I think people should lower their expectations of what should happen in a generational natural disaster. It’s called a natural disaster for a reason.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202942 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 3:37 pm to
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Did you “winterize” your home?




This whole 1st post is missing ONE key ingredient....




MOTHER NATURE.......
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65729 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 3:38 pm to

You're embarrassing yourself. And likely pissing off other Louisianaians with your tone about "preparedness".
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 3:39 pm to
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This storm got down to 0 degrees


As predicted weeks in advance.

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Should they prep down to -10 degrees


That's not how it works

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think people should lower their expectations of what should happen in a generational natural disaster. It’s called a natural disaster for a reason.


It's only a disaster because they didn't take the proper precautions that were prescribed to them.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29452 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 3:39 pm to
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WaWaWeeWa

Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 3:39 pm to
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The original post and a few others up till this one remind me of the people from virginia making fun of us who flooded in 2016.


How many times do I have to say that I’m not blaming anyone?

My entire point is that none of this was realistically controllable. People blaming wind power, people blaming gas companies, it’s all silly.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 3:40 pm to
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My entire point is that none of this was realistically controllable


Your point is factually incorrect
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85040 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 3:41 pm to
From your OP:
quote:

If you didn’t winterize your home you obviously didn’t think the risk of a severe winter storm was worth the money or time to be prepared.
How is this not blaming people?
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25527 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 3:44 pm to
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How many extreme situations should the plant prepare for?


I get it now. So it’s the homeowner’s job to prepare for the extreme, but not the plants that are being paid to supply the power. Sounds reasonable.
Posted by TulaneUVA
Member since Jun 2005
25894 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 3:46 pm to
Read through the thread and I get both sides.

The plants and facilities are making cost judgments based on an assumed weather boundary condition. They got smoked. Lesson learned. It’s a similar rational for many (not all) when they choose to build, buy, maintain their own facilities. Again, some got burned.

But others are correct that many also don’t have the resources or ability to do anything other than count on the utility companies to provide.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 3:47 pm to
If you didn’t think the risk of a winter storm was worth the preparation why would a power company?

That’s not blaming anyone for their current situation. It’s just making a rational observation.

If someone can show me evidence of the power companies cutting corners resulting in a disaster I’ll get on board. Otherwise, I wouldn’t expect them to be prepared for this level of storm.
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
22739 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 3:47 pm to
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I get it now. So it’s the homeowner’s job to prepare for the extreme, but not the plants that are being paid to supply the power. Sounds reasonable.



No, I think he's saying people who are just scraping by in this time of covid, should be as - or more - prepared than multi-billion dollar companies whose sole job is to provide power to citizens.

And if they're not just as - or more - prepared than these companies, then they have no right whatsoever to complain.

Or he's just being a smug a-hole. Not sure.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25527 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 3:48 pm to
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Even if the power plants could keep up, a limb could take out your power line and leave you without power.


This can happen on a windy day down here

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If you didn’t winterize your home you obviously didn’t think the risk of a severe winter storm was worth the money or time to be prepared.


This is an ignorant statement. Blame Californians when wildfires ravage towns. I assume it’s the fault of folks in Lake Charles that their houses were torn apart? They could have chosen a better location in which to live, but it obviously wasn’t worth their time. Residents of NOLA are willingly living in a city prone to flooding, and the pumps fail. That definitely falls on the shoulders of homeowners.

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Why are you blaming a power company (wether renewable or fossil fuel) for making the same judgement call?


The power company is being blamed for what is deemed a slow response. And the power company gets paid to supply said power, and part of supplying power entails making decisions about winterizing their own facility.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25527 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 3:49 pm to
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Or he's just being a smug a-hole. Not sure.


It’s this one
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 3:52 pm to
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I get it now. So it’s the homeowner’s job to prepare for the extreme, but not the plants that are being paid to supply the power. Sounds reasonable.


No you don’t get it at all.

We all make decisions daily based on risk. You have to draw the line somewhere. Power companies are no different.

It’s just my opinion that I’m not surprised the power companies had issues. Some people are outraged, I guess I don’t get it.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66828 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 3:52 pm to
Okay. Now let’s play the same game with the 2016 BR floods.
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