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re: Should the United States, Canada, and Mexico confederate?

Posted on 9/22/21 at 9:55 am to
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 9/22/21 at 9:55 am to
How far we’ve fallen from a small, less centralized government. You would just open the door to more of the same corruption and greed we’ve come to expect from an out of control federal overseer.

The US is a country of 50 different countries working as one country. I have no desire to make our central government stronger, bigger, and more corrupt than it already is. Quite the opposite actually.

Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 9/22/21 at 10:00 am to
So you don’t think there are enough literate people in Mexico/Central America to handle the job? A lot of products are already made in Honduras etc. There are plenty of people that are more educated than either one of us in those countries. Also, you don’t need to be a Nobel prize winner to work on a factory line.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/22/21 at 10:01 am to
Never said i would be in favor of it but nice try
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
89214 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 10:02 am to
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So you don’t think there are enough literate people in Mexico/Central America


there is a yuuuge stereotyping problem regarding messicans/Latin Americans
This post was edited on 9/22/21 at 10:03 am
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 9/22/21 at 10:02 am to
Mike, your state within a country is likely as corrupt as any other. Not to mention your county or parrish. The US is corrupt and has been broken for a century and a half. We have our great moments, but I bet our GGG Grandfathers sat at a dry goods store bitching to others about how things have gotten worse.
This post was edited on 9/22/21 at 10:04 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 10:04 am to
quote:

The US is a country of 50 different countries working as one country. I have no desire to make our central government stronger, bigger, and more corrupt than it already is. Quite the opposite actually.



I think it would do the opposite. Mexico and Canada would retain their autonomy, and as long as we don't have another layer of government, I believe it would lead to more State autonomy
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 10:07 am to
It may be true that there are more illiterate people in Mexico/Central America, juxtaposed with the United States, but to suggest they couldn’t handle more manufacturing due to lack of people able to read and write is absolutely absurd.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 9/22/21 at 10:07 am to
I just wanted to point out that I didn’t know that “confederate” was a verb.

I can’t be the only one.
Posted by TwoFace
Member since Mar 2018
1294 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 10:07 am to
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it would be easier to monitor the Mexican/central American boarder 


frick it, we should take over everything down to the Panama Canal. We'd have all the nice beaches, and kicking the shite out of cartels would be fairly easy for our military. Maybe?
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 9/22/21 at 10:10 am to
quote:

Mike, your state within a country is likely as corrupt as the any other. Not the mention your county or parrish. The US is corrupt and has been broken for a century and a half. We have out great moments, but I bet our GGG Grandfathers sat at a dry goods store bitching to others about how things have gotten worse.


You’re right, and these are all effects of corruption on the federal and state level. That however is not a reason to continue down this path, and I’m convinced that people reading this right now will most surely see this country revert to more localized government as this country falls, and secession takes place to align themselves with regional partners that make more sense.

The real problem as I see it at present is that people are content with the gristle that falls from the tables of the ruling class in DC, Fifth Avenue, and Wall Street, and have missed the opportunity for something much greater in which they themselves can benefit from in a more localized economy, free market, and governing that they can control more than they can control on a national level.

Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
89214 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 10:10 am to
quote:

It may be true that there are more illiterate people in Mexico/Central America,


I meant we erroneously assume there is more illiteracy down there than there actually is, hell, our illiteracy stats are skewed because in public schools they want to keep shutting people through the system, if you look in the mirror and get a reflection you get a hs diploma, ergo, you are "edumuhcated"
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 10:11 am to
quote:

It may be true that there are more illiterate people in Mexico/Central America,


There is.

But they're coming anyway and no one is stopping them anymore. My selfish arse just wants the Canadian border to be less of a hassle.
Posted by LB84
Member since May 2016
4371 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 10:14 am to
We need to split up. Not add more to this shite show.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
89214 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 10:15 am to
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There is.


I don't think that's quite as rampant as everyone thinks, most of those kids get a Catholic school secondary education as a minimum, it's just a case of the tremendous gap between the have and have nots that stifle opportunity after they become of age
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 10:16 am to
You’re 100 percent right, there are plenty of people here with HS diplomas that are barely literate. I was agreeing with you and more responding to the poster that suggested manufacturing jobs couldn’t be moved to Latin America due to lack of literacy.
Posted by sumtimeitbeslikedat
Vidalia, La
Member since Nov 2013
4975 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 10:16 am to
quote:

moving manufacturing from Asian countries (especially China) and moving them to Mexico and other Central American countries.


Whoa! Talk about increasing opportunities for corruption exponentially!!! Also, you think product quality is crap now? Wait till everything is stamped ‘Made in Mexico’.

I have a better idea. How about we just bring those manufacturing jobs back to the US?
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
89214 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 10:19 am to
quote:

responding to the poster that suggested manufacturing jobs couldn’t be moved to Latin America due to lack of literacy.


gotcha, we've been moving those jobs down there since Clinton signed the NAFTA agreement, if the workers that I see up here(Texas,) are an indication of the quality of workmanship in the factories down there, it might be a step up from up in qc from USA manufacturing
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44038 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 10:21 am to
No. If anything, we should be pushing for smaller gov'ts. Now I would support an American free trade zone that allowed for the exchange of goods, services, and peoples between all the countries in North and South America.
Posted by JAGuyHeh
Member since Aug 2021
189 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 10:23 am to
No, we should make Alberta a state!

Trump's making Alberta the 51st state - Youtube
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120437 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 10:23 am to
Cartels control most of the money in Mexico. If it wasn't for the Cartel I think it would be a good idea, but I don't care where you are in Mexico, the Cartels have more influence than the government (you can argue they are one and the same since the Cartels pay off the politicians).

I wonder why the US has never helped Mexico go after the Cartels, it seems like it would be in the US's best interest if they didn't exist. Create opportunity in Mexico and there isn't nearly as many people trying to get into the US. But that's a story for another day I guess.
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