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re: Shooting at Orlando gay club: 50 Dead, 53 Injured, Shooter is Radical Muslim

Posted on 6/12/16 at 11:41 am to
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74804 posts
Posted on 6/12/16 at 11:41 am to
He has a ccl and is a licensed security guard.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
Who knows where?
Member since Jan 2008
12715 posts
Posted on 6/12/16 at 11:41 am to
The news I've read says it's being treated as a terrorist attack, but I haven't actually seen anything suggesting this guy was a radical muslim. Can someone point me to that? CNN is saying no jihadi groups have claimed responsibility, though radical islam forums are praising it.

From CNN:
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While investigators are exploring all angles, they "have suggestions the individual has leanings towards (Islamic terrorism), but right now we can't say definitely," said Ron Hopper, assistant special agent in charge of the FBI's Orlando bureau.


Although apparently the Florida governor is stating it is clearly a terrorist attack. Interesting.

Good God this is awful.
Posted by Isabelle81
NEW ORLEANS, LA
Member since Sep 2015
2718 posts
Posted on 6/12/16 at 11:42 am to
WTF my arse!! Het them the hell off our soil!! Frick them all!!!
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 6/12/16 at 11:42 am to
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I think you spelled the name right but autocorrect put the spelling I used in.



It's like Kadaffi. You spell it however you want.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/12/16 at 11:42 am to
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I am telling you, killing 50 people with a gun isn't easy,this is the first time it has happened.


All the early reports were saying 20 dead. Then SWAT storms the building and its 50. I wonder how many were accidentally killed, or if he lined them up in case SWAT stormed the building. Either way, it's really fricked up
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
86568 posts
Posted on 6/12/16 at 11:43 am to
All news outlets are saying that he did proclaim support to ISIS at some point. He was probably self actualized. Meaning he probably did not have any direct contact with ISIS.
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
25238 posts
Posted on 6/12/16 at 11:44 am to
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Hope I don't know anyone back home who was injured or killed, have a lot of friends out there. So awful.




I grew up there. I wasn't able to get down there. But I had an old friend who's funeral was yesterday in Orlando. A couple of our best mutual friends are Muslims raised here. This story just really sucks.
Posted by JombieZombie
Member since Nov 2009
7687 posts
Posted on 6/12/16 at 11:44 am to
Back in Dec, the GOP blocked a bill that would make it harder for terrorists to obtain weapons; this guy was on a "watch" list. Thomas Jefferson would be proud.
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39476 posts
Posted on 6/12/16 at 11:45 am to
Republicans fault!
Posted by JombieZombie
Member since Nov 2009
7687 posts
Posted on 6/12/16 at 11:46 am to
Yep.
Posted by LSU80 USF08
Orlando, FL
Member since Nov 2007
2729 posts
Posted on 6/12/16 at 11:46 am to
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Why is the news reporting this as an attack at a gay club instead of just a club? Seems like they're trying to imply motive with no evidence of any.


It was reported that he was upset at seeing two men kissing while in Miami. It might have been the trigger.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112940 posts
Posted on 6/12/16 at 11:46 am to
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Agree!!! Anyone on the FBI radar need to be removed from this country, and that includes any US citizens that might be on the radar. I don't care what the Comstitution says. It wasn't written it the time we are currently living.

Whoa!!
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74804 posts
Posted on 6/12/16 at 11:48 am to
If a person has terrorist ideologies but is not in a terrorist group are they still a terrorist?

I say yes. If he idealised terrorism then to me he is a terrorist. All mass shootings are acts of terrorism. The goal is to kill while instilling fear in others from the attack itself.
Each mass shooting has installed such fear.
Just because isis or aq didn't sign off on it doesn't mean it wasn't following their vision.
This post was edited on 6/12/16 at 11:49 am
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13623 posts
Posted on 6/12/16 at 11:48 am to
Lots of stupidity in this thread, but not surprising given the demographics of this site.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31826 posts
Posted on 6/12/16 at 11:48 am to
I think you people will find out, he was doing 1 room at a time at first.
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
25238 posts
Posted on 6/12/16 at 11:48 am to
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Republicans fault!


No. But the nra has been fighting common sense gun laws for way too long, and winning.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63849 posts
Posted on 6/12/16 at 11:48 am to
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If you're on a watch list, it should be incredibly painstakingly difficult for you to get a weapon, especially a semi automatic
What stops the government from putting everyone on the list?
Posted by LSU80 USF08
Orlando, FL
Member since Nov 2007
2729 posts
Posted on 6/12/16 at 11:49 am to
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Would be nice to see the Quaran loving progs spin this.


There's no good way to spin a horrific act like this. It is just an example of the power of any belief system that has a "My way is the only way" base. Doesn't matter which fairy tale is followed.
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39476 posts
Posted on 6/12/16 at 11:49 am to
frick off with that dumb shite
This post was edited on 6/12/16 at 11:50 am
Posted by BobABooey
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2004
16201 posts
Posted on 6/12/16 at 11:50 am to
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They had a story on 60 minutes how people on the "no fly" list can still buy guns, no problem. Congress doing work!

The No Fly list that no one really knows how you get on?
The No Fly list that has no/incredibly difficult appeals process?
The No Fly list that we hear stories about John Doe not being able to fly because there's another John Doe on the list?

The idea that an unnamed beaurocrst can take away your right to free speech, right to bear arms, etc. should frighten anyone. It's common sense.

The Bill of Rights are not rights that are endowed by Government on citizens.
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