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re: Shooter reported at Texas' Santa Fe High School: At least 9 dead

Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:00 pm to
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:00 pm to
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So we shouldn't try to make cars safer based on your logic, right?


Well, if we look at cars, if car manufacturers made cars as safe as possible, 99% of people wouldn't be able to afford them. Affordability carries risk, if you think about it.

The same thing with the gun control debate. Our government isn't a totalitarian one. A totalitarian government can guarantee your safety. A free government cannot. Freedom carries some risk. The question becomes how much freedom are you willing to sacrifice in order to feel safe?
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143793 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:01 pm to
Shouldn’t a kid wearing a trench coat to a school in south Texas in mid-May been seen as suspicious?
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
71121 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:01 pm to
I would have to pull up my post history but I've been very clear before when it came to attacking people based off race instead of by their actions.

I am not even in defense of anyone

I just hate when people try to race bait, its annoying.

This isn't a race issue, its a case of a shitty person who took lives of innocent people. No one should be defended here.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138916 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:01 pm to
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Yeah, I think when you look at the data, white males are less likely to commit a mass shooting than a black male, but the difference doesn't seem to be that big.



It's really odd how "mass shooting" statistics are handled. They'll say that there are over 400 mass shootings every year. Using that definition, the vast majority of mass shootings are committed by black males.

They then mention that mass shootings are always crazy white kids.

Then they say we need to ban assault rifles but handguns are ok despite the fact that, if we use their own definition of a mass shooting, then the overwhelming majority are committed using handguns.

The cherry picking of statistics is extremely frustrating.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:01 pm to
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Marco Rubio suggested a gun violence restraining order, where people can report suspicious activity by somebody to the police, and law enforcement can perhaps confiscate weapons of people they think has probable cause of committing violence.

Yeah, that's a slippery slope I'd rather not go down.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
66973 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:01 pm to
Apparently staff even bullied this kid. Ridiculous
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
91793 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:01 pm to
The car argument is fricking stupid. Action could actually be done to slow down all these school shootings but nothing will be done.

It's sad.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138916 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:02 pm to
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I had a long debate with a guy who was making some insane defenses for that dude.


Ok, one dude. Is that supposed to prove something?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138916 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:03 pm to
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The car argument is fricking stupid. Action could actually be done to slow down all these school shootings but nothing will be done.

Please tell us your solutions.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84435 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:03 pm to
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The car argument is fricking stupid.


If it makes you feel better, I didn't come up with the analogy.

quote:

Action could actually be done to slow down all these school shootings but nothing will be done. It's sad.


What do you propose that we do?
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22970 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

Action could actually be done to slow down all these school shootings but nothing will be done.


What action?
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
71121 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:03 pm to
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I had a long debate with a guy who was making some insane defenses for that dude.



There are stupid people out there, we can't let one or two people speak for the masses.

We can all agree that dude was a massive POS
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
91793 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:04 pm to
One way in, several ways out with armed officer at the one way in.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:04 pm to
I'm looking at the thread right now. It's more than one person. But whatever. You have your view and I have mine. Mine was obviously colored by the interaction with the crazy guy.
This post was edited on 5/18/18 at 1:05 pm
Posted by nated14
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2009
938 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:05 pm to
Can’t legislate crazy. I would like to see school entries and exits treated like airport TSA. Controlled entrances and exits. Sucks having to go to school in prison but better than leaving on a gurney.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:06 pm to
has anyone started #santafestrong yet?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138916 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:07 pm to
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Mine was obviously colored by the interaction with the crazy guy.

Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177296 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:08 pm to
People are saying the shooter was bullied. How about students stop being little shits and bullying people?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:08 pm to
Oh damn. I need to check myself.
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
71995 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:09 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/5/23 at 1:55 pm
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