re: Shooter reported at Texas' Santa Fe High School: At least 9 dead

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What’s the shooters name?

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Dimitrios Pagourtzis. Goes by Dimitri.

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The excuse of "these arent that common, the media just makes you think they are" doesnt fly with me anymore

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Especially since it's not this common basically anywhere else.

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So the shooter is white......again

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Definitely not from Detroit, Baltimore, New Orleans, or Chicago then

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How many stories of people killed by folks texting or driving or homeowners who defend their home from robbers with their own firearms never hit the national news? The MSM is manipulating you into trying to surrender your rights.

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Are you insinuating these happen everywhere just as much in all countries?

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You can check my post history, not once have I ever made comments of people based off of race, etc...

But let random people on the OT speak for me, whatever makes you feel better

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Honest question, have you ever replied with as much vigor to call out people as race baiting pricks in all the threads when black or Muslims kill people?


I think his bigger point was how quickly someone came to the defense when it's directed at white people, but no one ever does with other races.

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Still no school guards.

Liberal politicians have blood on their hands.

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I heard this school had 3 armed officers, 1 of which was shot.

Yeah, I think when you look at the data, white males are less likely to commit a mass shooting than a black male, but the difference doesn't seem to be that big.

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I think his bigger point was how quickly someone came to the defense when it's directed at white people, but no one ever does with other races.

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Black males are responsible for a majority of homicides in this country despite only making up 6.6% of the population. Not exactly the same thing.

There have been various proposals suggested that people say does not go far enough.

Marco Rubio suggested a gun violence restraining order, where people can report suspicious activity by somebody to the police, and law enforcement can perhaps confiscate weapons of people they think has probable cause of committing violence.

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What if, however, there was an evidence-based process for temporarily denying a troubled person access to guns? What if this process empowered family members and others close to a potential shooter, allowing them to “do something” after they “see something” and “say something”? I’ve written that the best line of defense against mass shootings is an empowered, vigilant citizenry. There is a method that has the potential to empower citizens even more, when it’s carefully and properly implemented.

It’s called a gun-violence restraining order, or GVR

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While there are various versions of these laws working their way through the states (California passed a GVRO statute in 2014, and it went into effect in 2016), broadly speaking they permit a spouse, parent, sibling, or person living with a troubled individual to petition a court for an order enabling law enforcement to temporarily take that individual’s guns right away. A well-crafted GVRO should contain the following elements (“petitioners” are those who seek the order, “the respondent” is its subject):

It should limit those who have standing to seek the order to a narrowly defined class of people (close relatives, those living with the respondent);
It should require petitioners to come forward with clear, convincing, admissible evidence that the respondent is a significant danger to himself or others;
It should grant the respondent an opportunity to contest the claims against him;
In the event of an emergency, ex parte order (an order granted before the respondent can contest the claims), a full hearing should be scheduled quickly — preferably within 72 hours; and
The order should lapse after a defined period of time unless petitioners can come forward with clear and convincing evidence that it should remain in place.

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