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re: Shooter reported at Texas' Santa Fe High School: At least 9 dead

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Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

Freedom carries some risk. The question becomes how much freedom are you willing to sacrifice in order to feel safe?


Freedom also carries responsibility and accountability. Two things that are foreign concepts now. Everything is someone else’s fault.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:11 pm to
bingo
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15791 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:11 pm to
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Freedom also carries responsibility and accountability. Two things that are foreign concepts now. Everything is someone else’s fault.


Upvote
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
71995 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:12 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/5/23 at 4:15 am
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15791 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:14 pm to
I don't want to hear it but how long until David Hogg is in front of a camera spewing off at the mouth again?
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177296 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:15 pm to
You can hit preview then click on the OT to see how many replies are in a thread. Then you can refresh the page as much as you want.. just don't click on anything. Then once the thread gets to 19, 39, 59, 79 replies, etc click on back and your post will still be there in the preview box. Then post it. :coco2:
Posted by occams razor
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2007
389 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:16 pm to
This is a culture problem and not a gun issue. Our American culture is in desperate straits.
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
71995 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:16 pm to
Ahhhhh smart.... will do from now on
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112854 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:17 pm to
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We've done plenty to make guns safer.

And if you really wanted to cut down on traffic fatalities you would ban any car that can travel faster than 70 mph and place an interlock system in every vehicle. Would you be okay with that?
It was a yes or no question, fwiw.

Should we try to make cars safer, yes or no...
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112854 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:20 pm to
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I would have to pull up my post history but I've been very clear before when it came to attacking people based off race instead of by their actions.

I am not even in defense of anyone

I just hate when people try to race bait, its annoying.
Then I'd say your post is justified.

Not that I'm the police on that.
Posted by Averytiger
Member since Dec 2017
1366 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

This is a culture problem and not a gun issue. Our American culture is in desperate straits.


Thank you. I’ve long since wondered what prompts a trend of people wanting to murder classmates and teachers. I don’t have any answers.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112854 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:21 pm to
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One way in, several ways out with armed officer at the one way in.
At every school in America?

Is that remotely feasible?
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29730 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:22 pm to
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22970 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:22 pm to
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It was a yes or no question, fwiw.

Should we try to make cars safer, yes or no...



Well, that depends on what you are going to do to make them safer. If you mean using technology to help avoid collisions and making them safer for the occupants during a collision, yes. If you mean limiting their top speed to 70 mph or requiring a special license to own a car that goes over 70 mph then no.
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15791 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:22 pm to
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At every school in America?

Is that remotely feasible?


With all the government waste, yes its possible. No it will never happen
Posted by SUB
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Member since Jan 2009
25524 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:23 pm to
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I mean look at Parkland. The "hero" Emma Gonzales admitted in an interview she used to bully the shooter. That should have ended her fame right there in the moment.


While I agree with your other thoughts, do you have support for this? And don’t post that edited YouTube video that doesn’t show all that she said in her speech, because it takes things out of context.

FWIW I don’t like her either but I also hate fake news.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112854 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:24 pm to
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I mean look at Parkland. The "hero" Emma Gonzales admitted in an interview she used to bully the shooter. That should have ended her fame right there in the moment.
That's not true. They took a snippet of a clip but when you see the entire quote, it's clear she did not admit to bullying the dude.

But I agree with your overall premise. My kids are 6 years old and it's probably a weekly basis where I ask if anyone has bullied them or if they ever see anyone getting bullied and an obligatory warning that if they ever bully anyone, they're pretty fricked...maybe I don't say it in those words to them though.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112854 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:26 pm to
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This is a culture problem and not a gun issue. Our American culture is in desperate straits.

I imagine it's both, or more to the point, the guns are woven into our culture moreso than other countries.
Posted by FLTech
he/won
Member since Sep 2017
28181 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:26 pm to
If this was an illegal alien doing the shooting, not a single news outlet except for FOX would have reported it
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
68038 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:28 pm to
good lord. every school shooter has the "thats a school shooter" look
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