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Serious question, death penalty?
Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:47 pm
Why don't we use the death penalty more?
Murder should be automatic, let them get their appeals and then execute.
Or in a case that is clear cut like this school shooter. No appeals, just execute.
Murder should be automatic, let them get their appeals and then execute.
Or in a case that is clear cut like this school shooter. No appeals, just execute.
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:48 pm to kengel2
imo because we have a long history of the state murdering innocent people.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:48 pm to kengel2
Because all the appeals end up costing the state to keep re-trying the case than it does to just lock them up for life.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:49 pm to kengel2
Punishment should fit the crime.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:50 pm to kengel2
Because our prison system is for-profit and the powers that be want to squeeze every last tax payer dime out of a prisoner before executing them.
That's why it takes 15 years to execute someone even after appeals are finished. That's why we use expensive proprietary drugs instead of something cheap like gallows, guillotine, firing squad, etc.
Follow the money.
That's why it takes 15 years to execute someone even after appeals are finished. That's why we use expensive proprietary drugs instead of something cheap like gallows, guillotine, firing squad, etc.
Follow the money.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:51 pm to dbeck
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Because our prison system is for-profit and the powers that be want to squeeze every last tax payer dime out of a prisoner before executing them.
That's why it takes 15 years to execute someone even after appeals are finished. That's why we use expensive proprietary drugs instead of something cheap like gallows, guillotine, firing squad, etc.
Follow the money.
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This post was edited on 5/18/18 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 5/18/18 at 4:05 pm to kengel2
I’m all for the death penalty in slam dunk cases. Hang them and be done with it quick. The problem comes in cases that aren’t slam dunk
Posted on 5/18/18 at 4:07 pm to kengel2
Need to bring back hanging
Posted on 5/18/18 at 4:09 pm to kengel2
The average time between sentencing and execution in death penalty cases in the US is over 15 years.
Doen't make a lick of goddamn sense.
Doen't make a lick of goddamn sense.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 4:14 pm to Peazey
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imo because we have a long history of the state murdering innocent people.
Which is why it should be completely clear cut...
Such as video, confession, etc.. not just a low number of witness accounts.
I don't like the idea of it because of this possibility.. but when it's completely 100% sure then I get it.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 4:27 pm to kengel2
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Why don't we use the death penalty more?
Shortage of Drugs to humanely kill people is what I've heard
Posted on 5/18/18 at 4:29 pm to fr33manator
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Need to bring back hanging
Guillotine imo
Posted on 5/18/18 at 4:33 pm to kengel2
Serious answer.
There are due process issues and many felons have had their sentences overturned by proof of faulty expert or investigator evidence (fraud). That’s a pretty damning thing. If you are going to kill someone, you better be 100% certain they are guilty. Many also consider it immoral (the Catholic Church for one) and it is widely opposed by almost every other modern country in the world. Japan, Singapore, Taiwan and the US are the only industrialized countries in the world that still implement the death penalty (we do have something in common with Palestine, Somalia, Nigeria, Iran, Afghanistan and North Korea after all).
Having typed all of that, I am actually in favor of the death penalty in certain instances, but there are serious flaws in how it has been implemented in the past.
There are due process issues and many felons have had their sentences overturned by proof of faulty expert or investigator evidence (fraud). That’s a pretty damning thing. If you are going to kill someone, you better be 100% certain they are guilty. Many also consider it immoral (the Catholic Church for one) and it is widely opposed by almost every other modern country in the world. Japan, Singapore, Taiwan and the US are the only industrialized countries in the world that still implement the death penalty (we do have something in common with Palestine, Somalia, Nigeria, Iran, Afghanistan and North Korea after all).
Having typed all of that, I am actually in favor of the death penalty in certain instances, but there are serious flaws in how it has been implemented in the past.
This post was edited on 5/18/18 at 4:39 pm
Posted on 5/18/18 at 4:35 pm to beauchristopher
Weirdly enough there are more than a few people who confess to crimes they did not commit. Sometimes because of mental handicap. Sometimes because of interrogation techniques. Sometimes because they are promised that it will go better for them if they confess.
I see the logic of capital punishment if there's no possibility of wrongful conviction and a cost effective way to carry it out. But the logic for me falls apart because both of those things are untrue.
I see the logic of capital punishment if there's no possibility of wrongful conviction and a cost effective way to carry it out. But the logic for me falls apart because both of those things are untrue.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 4:52 pm to Peazey
It’s not murder they just shock you and you go to sleep
Posted on 5/18/18 at 4:53 pm to kengel2
It's expensive and innocent people have been put to death. Life without parole is cheaper and doesn't turn the murderer into a martyr.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 5:08 pm to kengel2
Do you think any state government in America is competent enough to be given an even more unrestricted power to kill its citizens?
Eff that. Bunch of retards running our criminal justice systems, and I don’t trust any of them to give them the ability to end someone else’s life even more quickly.
Eff that. Bunch of retards running our criminal justice systems, and I don’t trust any of them to give them the ability to end someone else’s life even more quickly.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 5:23 pm to kengel2
The death penalty should only apply to politicians imho
Posted on 5/18/18 at 6:03 pm to beauchristopher
There's no such thing as "clear cut." People will justify anything as being clear cut. People convince themselves that they "know" things that they don't actually know all the time. That's how we wound up with the wrongful convictions and executions in the first place.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 6:06 pm to Peazey
IMO Texas should make a statement and put this kid in the electric chair with public viewing...
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