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re: Senate approves TOPS changes
Posted on 4/20/16 at 2:46 pm to Dr. Shultz
Posted on 4/20/16 at 2:46 pm to Dr. Shultz
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That's not how I read it
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Senate Bill 470 calls for every student who qualifies for TOPS under the current rules to continue to get a portion of the scholarship, even if it can't be totally funded. This represents an alternative to the way a TOPS shortfall would be handled under the current state law -- by raising the ACT cutoff score needed for the scholarship.
Nola.com article
Posted on 4/20/16 at 2:47 pm to Dr. Shultz
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Instead of awarding full scholarships to smart kids (26+ ACT), they are awarding partial scholarships so many students from all backgrounds with a variety of ACT scores can fulfill their destiny of college
P.C. version
This post was edited on 4/20/16 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 4/20/16 at 2:48 pm to sjmabry
quote:apology reluctantly accepted.
Sorry for joining the military then moving to Texas upon my military exit.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 2:51 pm to NIH
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Perhaps 24-25 might be a better compromise but 20 is just too damn low. That is literally the benchmark for even being eligible for most schools.
LSU has a minimum ACT of 22 for new students, for comparison purposes. Not every student at LSU should qualify for TOPS for sure
Posted on 4/20/16 at 2:52 pm to tiger91
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I agree but to me a 26 is on the high side. I have a dog in the fight as I have a high school senior but he's above that so the 26 doesn't affect him. I know kids who are taking dual enrollment classes and have a 4.0 through ULL while they also have a 4.0 or close to it in my sons class ... yet they didn't make a 26 on the ACT. I just think a 26 is a bit high.
26 ought to be the minimum to get into college. We shouldn't be paying to have to take music appreciation 101 to get an engineering degree.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 2:53 pm to tiger91
LA doesn't want to send kids to college they want to lock them up in prisons.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 2:55 pm to tiger91
Jindal was to one extreme
Now Edwards is to the other extreme
They both suck!
Now Edwards is to the other extreme
They both suck!
Posted on 4/20/16 at 2:56 pm to tiger91
Now we don't have to worry about raising the minimum wage to $15 hour for fast food workers. The market will be full of underachieving high school graduates.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 2:56 pm to JamalSanders
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26 ought to be the minimum to get into college. We shouldn't be paying to have to take music appreciation 101 to get an engineering degree.
huh?
Posted on 4/20/16 at 2:57 pm to DirtyMike
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LA doesn't want to send kids to college they want to lock them up in prisons
This is such a crock of shite and why should the govt state or otherwise be responsible for sendING people to college anyway?
There are programs and limits set. If you meet the limit you get it if not then find other ways.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 2:58 pm to LaBR4
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Instead of awarding full scholarships to smart kids (26+ ACT), they are awarding partial scholarships so many students from all backgrounds with a variety of ACT scores can fulfill their destiny of college
What in the everloving frick is this shite right here? Since when is college part of one's destiny? How do existentialists and anti-predestination individuals feel about this?
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many students from all backgrounds with a variety of ACT scores
You don't have to think too hard to read into the obvious subtext here.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 2:59 pm to NIH
NIH I agree. And I just can't be convinced that a student with a 24 won't do well in college.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 3:01 pm to tiger91
A 24/25 is solid but someone who gets that score can easily get a 26 with a bit of prep.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 3:01 pm to tiger91
Such a bullshite bill. Let's hurt everyone (including the best students) so that we don't quite hurt the lower performing students so bad.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 3:02 pm to JamalSanders
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26 ought to be the minimum to get into college.
LOL there wouldn't be college if you had to have a 26. Only 17 % of students taking the ACT have a 26 Composite or better. The average composite in LA is 19.2.
LINK
Posted on 4/20/16 at 3:07 pm to TigerDat
If it's such a crock of shite then why does Louisiana spend roughly 6 times the amount on prison upkeep as it does with TOPS on a yearly basis.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 3:08 pm to DirtyMike
Mo
Tops is supposed to be for the brightest minds in LA so why don't we make sure that's what it's for.
If there wouldn't be so many shitty people in the state we wouldn't need to spend so much on prisons
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If it's such a crock of shite then why does Louisiana spend roughly 6 times the amount on prison upkeep as it does with TOPS on a yearly basis
Tops is supposed to be for the brightest minds in LA so why don't we make sure that's what it's for.
If there wouldn't be so many shitty people in the state we wouldn't need to spend so much on prisons
Posted on 4/20/16 at 3:12 pm to DirtyMike
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If it's such a crock of shite then why does Louisiana spend roughly 6 times the amount on prison upkeep as it does with TOPS on a yearly basis
It also isn't the state's responsibility to make sure someone is going to college but it is govt responsibility to ensure the safety of the people and prisons fall under that.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 3:20 pm to tiger91
I think it is pretty crappy that TOPS is based only on the ACT score.
My son will have to take the ACT again to get a 26, he has a 23/24 right now and 4.0 in High School graduating with honors.
My son will have to take the ACT again to get a 26, he has a 23/24 right now and 4.0 in High School graduating with honors.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 3:22 pm to TigerDat
I do feel safe with all of those non violent drug offenders behind bars.
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