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re: Secret Service says previous school shootings preventable

Posted on 11/7/19 at 6:26 pm to
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 6:26 pm to
Chapelle made the point his recent special that it’s white children that are shooting up schools.

These shootings aren’t particularly common, they are rare, but this does point to a problem in white families.

We should be talking about it. But we aren’t.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18704 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 6:28 pm to
Now we’re having kids expelled from school for posting to social media pics with their family out shooting for sport.

So, yeah. Good luck walking the line of free expression and dead kids.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122527 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 7:09 pm to
The thing about these shootings is that the kids who do it are in some fricked up state of mind and they want to inflict harm and kill people. If they didn't have a gun they would use something else.

If you ban guns then the next thing you would have to ban are pressure cookers and all the material that goes into making a bomb.

Everyone wants to blame something simple. Its the guns, its the movies, video games.. music.. So I am glad this report came out. And I have always thought that the people who do these things have showed some type of signs. It might have not been easily recognizable and if it is, it all depends on who recognizes it and how they process it.

They might see something, but when thinking about possibilities. the idea that someone you know will go shoot up a school doesn't seem likely so people's thinking defaults to what is more likely.. That they will not do anything extreme..

The problem is.. People want to live two lives. They think they are supposed to get married and/or have kids as soon as they graduate HS or while in college and then after they have a few kids they realize they want to get more out of life so as soon as their kids are old enough to stay on their own.. With their older siblings..They put their attention elsewhere, divorces happen and all of a sudden the kids are pushed to the side.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46425 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 7:18 pm to
quote:

profiling,


Formerly known as 'good police work'.
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
4233 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 7:30 pm to
quote:

I'm thinking more along the lines of repealing the 1934 NFA.


I mean.

ok.

every gun law is an infringement.

don't threaten me with a good time.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
43537 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 7:31 pm to
The problem is there are millions of threats and other suspicious activity.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19959 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 8:15 pm to
quote:

But if there is away to prevent a gun from getting into the hands of some mentally unstable person's hands.


There isn't.


quote:

I can support that. And I don't see a reason why anyone else would oppose of that.


Because you are as grossly uneducated on this topic as you are most others.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
43537 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 8:17 pm to
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Because you are as grossly uneducated on this topic as you are most others.





Yes, he doesn't understand "Muh guns"
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 8:19 pm to
quote:

We need to have a conversation about common sense asswhoopings for disrespectful children from a young age.



Okay boomer.

School shooters are definitely the shithead little kids, not super weird loners who keep to themselves.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19959 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 8:20 pm to
quote:

These shootings aren’t particularly common, they are rare, but this does point to a problem in white families.



Versus the extremely common shootings committed by black males of similar ages. That's a far larger problem.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 8:46 pm to
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Versus the extremely common shootings committed by black males of similar ages. That's a far larger problem.



But both are problems, and problems with different origins.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
20404 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 8:48 pm to
USSS was given the task of analyzing school and mass shootings years back by the President. Because they are the federal experts at dealing with whack jobs and trying to predict violent behavior. They have a whole division of psychologists and behavioral experts.
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15825 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:08 pm to
While i will agree most school shootings are by mentally ill white males, the vast majority of mass shootings, by definition, are not committed by white males.....those massacres just aren’t news worthy bc they go against the anti-gun rhetoric pushed by the ABC letter news outlets.
This post was edited on 11/7/19 at 9:09 pm
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30763 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:17 pm to
Let's see, the FBI was warned many times about the Florida school shooter, were even sent links to videos he had, talking about shooting the school up. But hey, they had better things to do.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19959 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:26 pm to
The FBI has published numerous reports on school and active shooter events.

FBI Active Shooter Resources
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19959 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:35 pm to
You should keep that in mind while reading this 80-page pamphlet on messaging intended for gun-control advocates. Really is instructive on how they use emotion, tragedies, and spinning the truth to influence the public.

Preventing Gun Violence Through Effective Messaging
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15825 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:40 pm to
Not reading 80 pages tonight. Cliffs?

ETA: I will read tomorrow all 80 pages
This post was edited on 11/7/19 at 9:45 pm
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61558 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:44 pm to
quote:

We should be talking about it. But we aren’t.

people are definitely talking about it
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19959 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:46 pm to
It basically starts off by stating:

quote:

Advocates for gun violence prevention win the logical debate, but lose on more emotional
terms.


Then spends the next 70+ pages on nothing logical and framing everything by using emotionally charged themes and arguments. It's very instructive on how gun-control advocates think and how they rely on ignorance to spread their messaging.

Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15825 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:52 pm to
I’ll be honest, I did read about the first 8 pages and already know whoever wrote it has an agenda. As an example, it talks about “assault weapons” in which no normal American can purchase. I’ll read all of it tomorrow or sat when I have full time to analyze but o can already tell it’s by someone that doesn’t really know weapons.
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