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Second Wave of Virus on Japanese Island
Posted on 4/14/20 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 4/14/20 at 2:05 pm
NPR Story
Not arguing for keeping things closed, just that we should probably be VERY cautious and proceed slowly.
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Japan's Hokkaido prefecture, which accounted for the country's highest number of coronavirus infections as the pandemic initially swept through Asia, has seen a sudden uptick in cases, causing government officials there to declare a state of emergency less than a month after lifting a similar order.
The governor of Hokkaido, the country's northernmost main island and the largest prefecture by size, made the announcement Sunday following nearly a week of double-digit increases in cases in the prefecture, according to Kyodo news service.
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Hokkaido declared a three-week state of emergency in February that was lifted on March 19. The prefecture had begun to reopen schools and was even allowing carefully orchestrated public gatherings.
But the latest order reverses all that, asking residents once again to refrain from nonessential trips outside their homes and closing prefectural primary and secondary schools until May 6.
Not arguing for keeping things closed, just that we should probably be VERY cautious and proceed slowly.
This post was edited on 4/14/20 at 2:06 pm
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 2:06 pm to DomincDecoco
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we should probably be VERY cautious and proceed slowly.
Dis dat new normal ya erd
Posted on 4/14/20 at 2:22 pm to DomincDecoco
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Not arguing for keeping things closed, just that we should probably be VERY cautious and proceed slowly.
So we keep stretching it out. What then? What is the end game? Stay at home for a year until a vaccine is developed? I am no doctor or expert, but I am about convinced that this thing is so widespread (huge numbers of infected with no symptoms) and so contagious that all this shelter in place is not a viable strategy. We need to get on with things taking what precautions we can. Will there be additional outbreaks? Yes. There just isn't anything we can do about it, and staying home another month is not going to change that.
Posted on 4/14/20 at 2:25 pm to SloaneRanger
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I am no doctor or expert, but I am about convinced that this thing is so widespread (huge numbers of infected with no symptoms) and so contagious that all this shelter in place is not a viable strategy. We need to get on with things taking what precautions we can. Will there be additional outbreaks? Yes. There just isn't anything we can do about it, and staying home another month is not going to change that.
The largest issues we have at this point is determining whether "re-infection" in other areas isn't just faulty tests or remnants of the initial infection. And producing enough tests to test as many people as possible for the virus as well as antibodies.
Where the US fricked up was testing availability.
Posted on 4/14/20 at 2:27 pm to DomincDecoco
That article couldnt have less information if it tried.
Zero data.
Zero data.
Posted on 4/14/20 at 2:27 pm to DomincDecoco
As long as it doesn’t cause an effect on the Snow Beef from that island we are cool!
Posted on 4/14/20 at 2:29 pm to DomincDecoco
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we should probably be VERY cautious and proceed slowly.
How do you insure that?
Posted on 4/14/20 at 2:37 pm to fightin tigers
I was like WTF am I reading?
Posted on 4/14/20 at 2:38 pm to DomincDecoco
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Japanese Island
Factually correct but misleading.
Posted on 4/14/20 at 2:39 pm to fightin tigers
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That article couldnt have less information if it tried.
Zero data.
"This is solid data we can use"
-JBE
Posted on 4/14/20 at 2:46 pm to fightin tigers
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That article couldnt have less information if it tried.
Zero data.
Because it's an NPR article.
Judging by the OP's previous posts, nothing would make him more happy than 2nd outbreaks occurring, just so he can be like "told y'all so, it spreads so fast blah blah blah".
Posted on 4/14/20 at 2:50 pm to saint tiger225
Posted on 4/14/20 at 2:55 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Where the US fricked up was testing availability.
who cares? Its still has a 96%+ survivability rate. Test all you want after we open back up, but the test results aren't going to change the fact that the virus is with us and 96% of the infected survive. What is with the obsession over testing? If you're sick, stay home. Treat this the same as any other flue.
Posted on 4/14/20 at 2:57 pm to DomincDecoco
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Second Wave of Virus
Almost inevitable
Posted on 4/14/20 at 3:01 pm to tigerinthebueche
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What is with the obsession over testing?
Really?
You don't get how antibody testing would be valuable to opening things back up until we are able to create a vaccine?
Posted on 4/14/20 at 3:02 pm to DomincDecoco
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just that we should probably be VERY cautious and proceed slowly.
Disagree.
It's about time we suck it up and let whatever happens happen. Eventually Americans are going to get fed up with this shite and begin to go back to work without permission. You can't arrest everyone and people know this. Besides...herd immunity is likely the way to go.
Posted on 4/14/20 at 3:04 pm to DomincDecoco
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Not arguing for keeping things closed, just that we should probably be VERY cautious and proceed slowly.
I'm ok with a slow roll out too. We still don't have our treatment locked down with a ready supply for everybody just yet.
I have a doctor that has her pharmacy check daily on whether they can get more hydroxychloroquine, and her massive arse hospital is still having trouble, as of yesterday, with getting more.
Posted on 4/14/20 at 3:06 pm to BluegrassBelle
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You don't get how antibody testing would be valuable to opening things back up until we are able to create a vaccine?
No. Because we can't keep the country closed. No matter what we do, the virus will still be here. and people are going to get sick and die regardless. All you can do is tell those who are compromised to stay home. The rest- people under 30, those without underlying health issues- need to be able to go back to work and resume a normal life. Economy aside, people are not going to stay home. Its not in our nature. Delaying it will only cause additional problems.
Posted on 4/14/20 at 3:10 pm to saint tiger225
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Judging by the OP's previous posts,
havent said that in previous posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 3:13 pm to tigerinthebueche
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What is with the obsession over testing? If you're sick, stay home. Treat this the same as any other flue.
This isn't the same as any ordinary flu, that should be obvious by now. There is a testing obession because if you can test and trace this thing it can keep the country open until we have a vaccine.
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