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re: Scott Adams regretted taking the Covid Vax, worried what it may do to him in 5 years
Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:24 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:24 pm to lsupride87
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Are you? There is also people who got Covid and had severe complications and are still alive. Are they better today?
You are retarded
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Saying “people who didn’t get the vaccine are better off and happier” is an assume statement
That’s not what I said or insinuated.
This post was edited on 5/21/25 at 1:00 pm
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Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:25 pm to lsupride87
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Its extremely clear looking at data when the vaccine was first introduced severe illness and death plummeted
So tell me something Einstein, when it became clear that there were breakthrough cases across the board in the summer of 2021 and it was clear the Alpha shots didn't do shite against the Delta variant, why was there a one-shot-fits-all mandate on Americans in the early fall of 2021 with outdated shots Alpha vs Delta? Why was there a push to just get a 6-month booster when someone already injected 2 rounds of that crap in their arm to begin with?
Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:29 pm to Tomatocantender
1. I was never for mandates
2. You are literally acknowledging variants forming. Logically you would need a booster if you want to be protected from a variant
2. You are literally acknowledging variants forming. Logically you would need a booster if you want to be protected from a variant
Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:33 pm to QJenk
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So do you believe it is by coincidence, that a shite ton of people died in 2020, compared to the other years.
Of course not.
The country was locked down, regular medical care went by the wayside, of course there were more deaths. Deaths of covid, flu, neglect, despair, delayed cancer screenings and treatments, lonliness, overdoses, suicides... it wasn't all covid.
Also... why haven't deaths dropped below 3mm since 2020? They were under 3mm in 2019.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:35 pm to lsupride87
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Logically you would need a booster if you want to be protected from a variant
Boosters 6 months after receiving 2 injections of mRNA? Not an annual booster but a 6 months booster?
Up to that point in '21 the technology of mRNA had never been used in the world to inoculate entire nations of people, especially 375m Americans which are no where close to a homogenous population like some of the Nordic countries for example.
It was completely irresponsible to play Russian roulette like that from the public health officials (Fauci, Wolensky, Birx et al), not to mention a mandate.
This post was edited on 5/21/25 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:37 pm to No Colors
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There was a hospital reimbursement rate for Covid patients who were in ICU. Being on a ventilator didn't change the rate. Doctors make the call on whether a patient needs a vent or not.
Ok, random guy on the internet who's definitely posting from one of the upper floors and not the basement as evidenced by his depth and breadth of knowledge on the subject.
With references
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Choosing the best treatment approach for COVID-19 patients encounters a potential problem in the reimbursement system: COVID-19 admissions that involve ventilation are reimbursed at a much higher rate than the alternatives (see chart). Medicare enrollees with COVID-19 receiving mechanical ventilation over 96 hours (MS-DRG 207) are reimbursed at over $42,000, while COVID-19 patients with ASRD treated with other therapies would likely be MS-DRG 177, which is paid at around $14,000.
This means that hospitals implementing less-intensive treatment approaches would start losing a lot of revenue on COVID-19 patients. If doctors first try less-inten-sive therapies for a Medicare COVID-19 patient with ARDS, and the patient doesn't require intubation at all (or dies before being intubated), hospital would lose about $28,000 in revenue on that patient admission. In addition, delaying ventilator use or extubating earlier significantly reduce hospital revenue if continuous time spent on ventilator becomes less than 4 days - about $23,000 difference for someone who spent 96 versus 97 hours on a ventilator.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:41 pm to QJenk
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Ok then. So wouldn't the logical thing to do would be to compare all of the deaths from Covid, and then compare that with all of the alleged deaths from the vaccine?
You don’t have a legitimate dataset of either.
Plus death isn’t the only issue.
Plus, you are making the biggest mistake of lumping everyone in together instead of considering that different people might be better off making different decisions. We know the elderly were a lot more vulnerable.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:48 pm to lsupride87
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I was never for mandates
Yes you were. You were also for Kanter on behalf of our missing chromosome, retarded looking governor at the time being successful in getting the Covid vaxx schedules in ALL Louisiana public schools. Bet me and I'll find that thread.
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You are literally acknowledging variants forming.
Yes, the Delta variant which was the worst of them all (Alpha was mostly elderly and co-morbidity people, Omicron was just vaxxed people including the young and healthy unfortunately playing ping pong giving each other the spike protein).
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Logically you would need a booster if you want to be protected from a variant
Not when there were breakthrough cases that Biden and the WH lied about saying before that if you got the vax then you won't get Covid. How convenient of you to forget about that little matter.
This post was edited on 5/21/25 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:56 pm to Shredded
I had three Moderna jabs. The booster injured me causing neurological damage and many associated symptoms. It's been over three years since then and most of my bad symptoms are gone. My healing strategy relied upon a strict carnivore diet along with intermittent and multiple day fasting. I also took nattokinase, bromelain, vitamins D3 & K2 and magnesium glycinate.
I'm 76. I trusted vaccines all my life but I developed autoimmune diseases over the last ten years. Now I know that those problems were caused by vaccinations. I bought and read the amazing anti vaccine book, Turtles All The Way Down. Now I know that vaccine benefits are mythological. The harms are very real.
I'm 76. I trusted vaccines all my life but I developed autoimmune diseases over the last ten years. Now I know that those problems were caused by vaccinations. I bought and read the amazing anti vaccine book, Turtles All The Way Down. Now I know that vaccine benefits are mythological. The harms are very real.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:30 pm to Tomatocantender
quote:Nope, never
Yes you were.
quote:I will bet you anything you would like I never once was for Covid vax being mandated for anything, much less schools, especially considering my kids go to public school and I never vaxxed them
You were also for Kanter on behalf of our missing chromosome, retarded looking governor at the time being successful in getting the Covid vaxx schedules in ALL Louisiana public schools. Bet me and I'll find that thread.
I hated the JBE regime. I hated all mandates. I hated masks, I hated limiting anything. Ever.You have no idea what you are talking about
Jsut because I correctly state the vaccine worked and isn’t dangerous it sends you into a ridiculous spiral trying to assign me as a “covidian” because you are too simple minded to not live in a zero sum world
This post was edited on 5/21/25 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:33 pm to Whiznot
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Turtles All The Way Down.
I've got that, never finished reading it... why do you like the book?
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:57 pm to SallysHuman
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The country was locked down, regular medical care went by the wayside, of course there were more deaths. Deaths of covid, flu, neglect, despair, delayed cancer screenings and treatments, lonliness, overdoses, suicides... it wasn't all covid.
Ahh. So I see. So your assertion is that hospitals were being overran an had their resources stressed then... Due to despair and loneliness?
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:01 pm to QJenk
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So your assertion is that hospitals were being overran an had their resources stressed then.
I never made that assertion. You, or someone else did.
Hospitals may have had busy respiratory wards, but it is not my understanding the entire complexes or all floors were overrun.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:01 pm to lsupride87
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Jsut because I correctly state the vaccine worked and isn’t dangerous
I realize you will argue for 15 pages over the material composition of an athlete's shoelaces; but, not even you believe this.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:04 pm to SallysHuman
I mean I'm just trying to understand your logic. Since you seemed to believe that Covid was basically non-existent, and very few people were dying due to it.
Many were actually being overrun. Just wondering, do you have any friends who work in healthcare that was working during this time?
Many were actually being overrun. Just wondering, do you have any friends who work in healthcare that was working during this time?
This post was edited on 5/21/25 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:10 pm to SallysHuman
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I don't know that it does.
YOU don't know that it doesn't.
The uncertainty is awful.
For the record... my personal thoughts on this isn't that the vax "causes" cancers, but that perhaps it messes with the immune system in such a way to give free reign to those predisposed. Or even less than that... that it may possibly just supercharge an event already in motion.
Maybe I AM retarded... but I am cognizant enough to be aware there are 'unknowns' with this particular preventative platform.
Arguing otherwise just puts you on the short bus with me.
by this logic the hamburger he ate for dinner a year ago could have "caused" his cancer, the list is literally endless what could have "caused" his cancer
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:31 pm to moneyg
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Plus death isn’t the only issue.
Plus, you are making the biggest mistake of lumping everyone in together instead of considering that different people might be better off making different decisions. We know the elderly were a lot more vulnerable.
We're talking about whether the vaccine is more dangerous than Covid. That's the point of all this. In order to prove that the vaccine was more dangerous than the virus. Then you'd have to prove that more people are dying/being hospitalized strictly due to the vaccine, as compared to the virus.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:40 pm to QJenk
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We're talking about whether the vaccine is more dangerous than Covid. That's the point of all this. In order to prove that the vaccine was more dangerous than the virus. Then you'd have to prove that more people are dying/being hospitalized strictly due to the vaccine, as compared to the virus.
I would limit it to dying and/or being hospitalized. I’d just call it damaged…whether it’s an earlier death than would have otherwise happened, autoimmune disease that causes pain or discomfort, etc.
Those things might happen over time. The data is going ti be tough to come by. And the data you are relying on already is flawed in multiple ways. Furthermore, you are again trying ti come to a single conclusion when we already know the risks of COVID for younger people were much lower than elderly people. That opens the door for different scenarios based on age.
In short, your analysis is much too simplistic.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:44 pm to tiger81
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I took it, was the lesser of two evils.
Scott Adams thought the same thing.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:56 pm to SoFla Tideroller
quote:There is nothing to argue. There is milllions of data sets that show it
realize you will argue for 15 pages over the material composition of an athlete's shoelaces; but, not even you believe this.
Your response
“The data is a lie”
It’s impossible to argue against that. What’s also funny, is you vehemently cheer to a man in Trump, who in your mind, championed and told people to take a vaccine that is a known killer. That’s a wild dichotomy to me
“I don’t have to agree with everything he did”. I mean, telling people they should take a medicine that you think kills people is kinda a big thing to jsut get over
This post was edited on 5/21/25 at 2:57 pm
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