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re: Scientist says he found definitive proof that God exists
Posted on 6/8/16 at 12:54 pm to Darth_Vader
Posted on 6/8/16 at 12:54 pm to Darth_Vader
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Animals have morality?
Absolutely.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 12:54 pm to Pecker
quote:I mean it is not that crazy of an idea
people trying to prove that God exists so that their faith-based belief system can be legitimized.
Do any of you Christian mensas realize the inherent problem with trying to prove that God exists?
ETA: I am a Christian
The stuff some physicists are trying to prove right now (now that technology won't actually allow them to yet) would absolutely blow your mind through your a-hole. It is even crazier than your mind actually being blown through your a-hole
Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:03 pm to Darth_Vader
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How so?
chimps have a strong moral code and will banish members that break it
same with wolves
any group of animals that have social groups display some type of moral code
This post was edited on 6/8/16 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:04 pm to Darth_Vader
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How so?
I suspect the same way humans have morality.
This post was edited on 6/8/16 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:06 pm to Salmon
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chimps have a strong moral code and will banish members that break it
same with wolves
Many mammals and pack animals have moral guidelines that let them live together in groups. Some have even been observed to show empathy to other members of their group, or more interesting, to members of another species.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:08 pm to Darth_Vader
Bet he thinks gondolas are stupid too!
Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:08 pm to Argonaut
I doubt most Christians really believe in God. If they did and actually had a personal relationship with him they'd give more than an hour or two a week to church etc.
Same people cream their pants at meeting sports stars but have personal relationship with the creator of the universe and can't be bothered to read his book.
Same people cream their pants at meeting sports stars but have personal relationship with the creator of the universe and can't be bothered to read his book.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:11 pm to Argonaut
So did the "Programmer" make humans smart enough to figure out they are in a simulated environment and not "reality"?
Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:12 pm to TejasPete
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can't be bothered to read his book.
To me, this is a net positive. If a creator of some sort does indeed exist, I certainly hope it isn't the one described in the Bible.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:13 pm to TejasPete
Maybe people who claim to be religious are 'hedging their bets' by going to church, or something like church?
Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:16 pm to Darth_Vader
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Scientist says he found definitive proof that God exists
Most people knew this already.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:18 pm to Darth_Vader
I think there is a difference between God and "we live in a world made by rules created by an intelligence". When you say God people think about it from a religious aspect. Heaven, hell.. the works, but that isn't really what an intelligence that created us is.
My religious beliefs are not in line with Christianity. I believe there is a high power, but as to what form or how it exist is what I don't know. I consider that different from whats in the bible.
My religious beliefs are not in line with Christianity. I believe there is a high power, but as to what form or how it exist is what I don't know. I consider that different from whats in the bible.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:28 pm to OweO
what a load of crap this scientist is presenting
Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:29 pm to OweO
I feel like the headline of that video does not match with the content of the video. Because he used "God" as a term in the video, religious people automatically take that to mean that their white bearded string puller is actually real
Personally, I interpreted the use of the term God as a metaphor.
Personally, I interpreted the use of the term God as a metaphor.
This post was edited on 6/8/16 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 6/8/16 at 2:37 pm to Peazey
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science is and will always be about "best explanations", not definitive proof.
According to good, real science, there are mathematical probabilities that you could spontaneously phase through the Earth as an 8-foot tall Persian woman.
That isn't the point. The point is that this specific article has a title attached to it which doesn't follow the content of what was actually said in the article. It is click bait. It is obvious. You have to be purposely disingenuous to not see this. It's just a purposely controversial statement to generate buzz. It works.
Saying that you observe a certain order to the universe therefore it makes sense that it had to be intelligently created is not groundbreaking "science." Discussion of the incredibly theoretical fields of string theory and quantum mechanics is not comparable to the much more established fields such as you implied.
What in your post states that the quoted post "isn't the point"?
Are you saying that non-theoretical sciences are closed-minded? Science, all science, is about best explanations. . .not THE answer.
You can't give THE answer unless you created the subject material, control ALL variables, and the research/study is ENTIRELY new (with no reliance on previous study/research NOT done by you).
If science is not falsifiable, god dammit it isn't fricking science. I am sick of repeating this shite.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 2:40 pm to Roaad
I just read 5 post on first page then jumped to here.
A good God thread can go for a long time.
Need a bit of a boost to keep it going?
"Anyone been to Healing Place lately? Would you recommend that church?"
A good God thread can go for a long time.
Need a bit of a boost to keep it going?
"Anyone been to Healing Place lately? Would you recommend that church?"
Posted on 6/8/16 at 4:42 pm to MSTiger33
We all are just riding around in our universe on an electron, in an atom, that's part of a sand grain, in the fish tank of some other beings universe. That's what I'm going with a sticking to it. 
Posted on 6/8/16 at 4:48 pm to Martini
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A good God thread can go for a long time.
Unless I post in it...then it gets anchored, I get banned, and told by the owner of the board that he doesn't want religious threads.
So...with that in mind, you guys go about your business...

Posted on 6/8/16 at 10:14 pm to Darth_Vader
1. I think all the rules and regulations that go with religions are wrong. It's not hard to understand that the mind manipulation comes with the money and power and as you know money and power breeds corruption .
2.Looking at all the religions or most all and seeing what is common in all of them,then looking at the lowest common denominator which is intelligent design. This gave me my belief that their is a creator. My belief is that their are steps to take to get to a higher plain of consciousness. We have to learn lessons in this dimension before moving to the next. It's my belief that theses lessons learned are lessons about how each individual treats others and our environment around us including nature and other creatures because after all the creator has created all. Lastly, it's only my belief so I don't judge anybody else's belief. If I'm wrong then it's only my damnation I have to worry over.
2.Looking at all the religions or most all and seeing what is common in all of them,then looking at the lowest common denominator which is intelligent design. This gave me my belief that their is a creator. My belief is that their are steps to take to get to a higher plain of consciousness. We have to learn lessons in this dimension before moving to the next. It's my belief that theses lessons learned are lessons about how each individual treats others and our environment around us including nature and other creatures because after all the creator has created all. Lastly, it's only my belief so I don't judge anybody else's belief. If I'm wrong then it's only my damnation I have to worry over.
This post was edited on 6/8/16 at 10:29 pm
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