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re: School shootings all have one thing in common…

Posted on 12/17/24 at 8:06 am to
Posted by TheHarahanian
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Posted on 12/17/24 at 8:06 am to

Correct, and it goes all the way back to the first shootings in Pearl, MS and Columbine, CO, where parents basically hadn’t been paying attention to their kids for a long time.
Posted by The People
LSU Alumni
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 12/17/24 at 8:10 am to
The correct answer is that they all played first person shooter games, a lot.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
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Posted on 12/17/24 at 8:15 am to
okay…Hillary.


(sorry Cluckster)
This post was edited on 12/17/24 at 8:32 am
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 12/17/24 at 8:19 am to
Posted by NOSTRODAMUS
Prairieville/Dutchtown
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 12/17/24 at 8:21 am to
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School shootings all have one thing in common


More than that. They’re all on some sort of medication whether it be for depression, adhd, anxiety or some shite.
Posted by Barrister
Member since Jul 2012
4990 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 8:28 am to
Mental illness.
Guns.
No defense system in place
Vulnerable victims
Ease of target access
…. And yes, shooters not spanked as kids.

Good list. Thanks for the topic.
This post was edited on 12/17/24 at 9:04 am
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
46016 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 8:35 am to
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It really doesn't seem that hard to have a reliable gun safe.

Certainly an admirable goal - mostly to protect from theft or house fire, but sadly to protect from your own family.

All people should be schooled in the facts and logic and safety wrt handling firearms. That once was as basic a tenant of growing up as was riding a bike or flushing the toilet or driving a car.

You never know when an isolated and ignorant kid might come into contact with a firearm owned by a friend or found on the ground. Everyone needs to know how to survive those possibilities as well as one needs to know how to cross a busy street.

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moral - if you don't feel safe in your own home with you own children, then you need to better train your children or get them mental health - or educate yourself on all of above.
This post was edited on 12/17/24 at 8:38 am
Posted by BK Lounge
Member since Nov 2021
4724 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 8:37 am to
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Don’t forget medication of prepubescent kids and therapy



You’re half right.. kids are over medicated.. but therapy is part of the solution, it’s a good, healthy thing.. talking out your problems with someone who is trained in how to manage emotions is about the best thing a troubled kid can do.. same with adults; it’s the guys who are repressing everything and keeping things bottled up who eventually blow a gasket and kill themselves or their families , or similar heinous crimes .
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
28440 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 8:40 am to
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All school shootings must have two things; a school and a gun.


WRONG.

School shootings must have THREE things: a school, a gun, and a psychopathic murderer willing to kill a bunch of innocent children and die that same day.

Mental illness is way too prevalent in today's youth. When I was growing up, we have guns in our cars/trucks AT SCHOOL. We never even considered using them to hurt anybody. Back then, we have greater respect for human life, were generally pretty happy, and knew that any angst, sadness or hardship we felt was only temporary.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 12/17/24 at 8:41 am to
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You would be very much wrong. Typical uneducated drivel spouted by those that don't know anything beyond what their TV tells them though. Every government agency in the US, Federal, State, and Tribal has gone through threat assessment exercises and the fact that US citizens are not only extremely well armed but that there is also a significant population of former and active military members that are not exactly loyal to authoritarian government mindsets is troubling to them.



This is a massive leap from an individual holding off the state with an arsenal my friend. The threats identified during the assessments you mention are exactly why they are not overly concerned. The fact that they have done these assessments and have taken absolutely zero action to mitigate any threat tells me that the threat is un-concerning to them....they have evaluated the threat and concluded no further action is necessary at this time.

But lets play the game.....what actions have they taken and what have been the impact? Exactly. For all intents and purposes none and none are the correct answer. They have paid a lot of lip service to all manner of actions, they have taken no real action because they know full well the threat is limited to a miniscule number of people who own firearms let alone the population at large and that small number is easily marginalized and rounded up and thrown in jail when they do indeed act....it happens from time to time and most firearm owners and non owner alike applaud the actions of the state for taking out the crazy or the criminal, depending on how the state identifies the person. Getting information from the local gun show is as bad or worse than getting it from TV. Typical uneducated drivel from those with a heated imagination who acts as if they mistrust government and simultaneously discounts what that government is capable of and more importantly willing to do when threatened in the least way.

The fact that y'all can publicly espouse this idea, that the government is being held at bay by your arsenal, is all the proof anyone with a grain of logic needs to know that the government is not overly concerned with your arsenal. When they become more than curious about it they will relieve you of it as an individual and if you don't comply peacefully they will relieve you of your burden of life....and the people around you, your friends, acquaintances and family, will turn a blind eye or worse applaud their actions.
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 12/17/24 at 8:58 am to
Sad but true.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 12/17/24 at 10:20 am to
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More than that. They’re all on some sort of medication whether it be for depression, adhd, anxiety or some shite.


Truth. It is scientific fact that SSRIs increase chance of violent crime.
Posted by theliontamer
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
1385 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 11:01 am to
Well yea. But kids have always done dumb stuff. From overdosing on drugs, getting in fights, running away from home, to driving drunk and killing someone. Being bad and destructive has been a thing for decades now. And now we're clearly in an age where the envelope has been pushed to include mass shootings. I don' think any parent nowadays should "trust" their kid with unsupervised and constant access to a fire arms. Especially auto rifles.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
14431 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 11:46 am to
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The correct answer is that they all played first person shooter games, a lot.


Walk up to the father today and put a bullet in the back of his head on national tv.

The next time a shooting happens walk up to that dad and put a bullet in the back of his head on national tv.

If you bring violence to a situation a couple of times, and I mean extreme violence, the point will get across.

I bet the next school shooter thinks very very hard before they enter a school. You have to make the act they are going to commit something that is going to cause unimaginable violence to that persons family.

Sorry if people are too soft to read and agree with this but its the truth.
This post was edited on 12/17/24 at 11:48 am
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
17775 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 12:10 pm to
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The fact that they have done these assessments and have taken absolutely zero action to mitigate any threat tells me that the threat is un-concerning to them....they have evaluated the threat and concluded no further action is necessary at this time.



Well, if that is your conclusion then you are massively uninformed. The conclusions have zero to do with them assessing they don't need to take action, they know they simply can't. Legally, logistically, tactically....there is no win for them.

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But lets play the game.....what actions have they taken and what have been the impact?


The ATF has been trying for the last several years, it's always an encroachment at the edges to get a foothold. Pistol braces, bump stocks, forced reset/binary triggers, etc...and they've lost on all fronts in the courts.


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They have paid a lot of lip service to all manner of actions, they have taken no real action because they know full well the threat is limited to a miniscule number of people who own firearms let alone the population at large and that small number is easily marginalized and rounded up and thrown in jail when they do indeed act.


Blatantly obvious you have never read even a summary of these assessments.... One of the reoccurring points made is that not only is not a "miniscule number" but that it can cascade into a situation that goes well beyond any federal agency's ability to respond. We run these scenarios frequently in the DSCA realm, not that you have a clue.


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Getting information from the local gun show is as bad or worse than getting it from TV. Typical uneducated drivel from those with a heated imagination who acts as if they mistrust government and simultaneously discounts what that government is capable of and more importantly willing to do when threatened in the least way.


My information is from my over 25 years in the military and the experience in federal disaster response and planning. Yours? Mostly just a pile of unsubstantiated bullshite that fills your thick little skull.


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When they become more than curious about it they will relieve you of it as an individual and if you don't comply peacefully they will relieve you of your burden of life....and the people around you, your friends, acquaintances and family, will turn a blind eye or worse applaud their actions.


You weirdos must pull your pathetic little puds dreaming of this...
This post was edited on 12/17/24 at 12:11 pm
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
69632 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 12:16 pm to
i swear you pick a weird pointless point to make in these type of arguments, throw it into chatgpt and output multiple paragraphs to post. no one reads any of it, so you don't have to back it up.
This post was edited on 12/17/24 at 12:20 pm
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