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CharlesLSU
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School safety: A few things to increase it
This is a complicated world we live in but I truly feel a few immediate measures can go a long way in mitigating some of these tragedies.

1 - Budget on-site school law enforcement to a significantly higher level including more training

2 - Be more vigilant in investigating the clues (social media provides many)

3 - Revisit school safety protocols (i.e. more metal detectors, school access procedures, etc.)

No one wants the ominous symbols around a school, but not recognizing the risks openly and accepting where we are today is reckless at best.

Not all tragedies can be averted, but they can be lessened.
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RATeamWannabe
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re: School safety: A few things to increase it
Naa
Gun control.


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LNCHBOX
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re: School safety: A few things to increase it
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but they can be lessened.


This is already extremely infrequent. It's a horrible tragedy, but statistically, how much less can it even happen?

How much money will be wasted just to make these hoops that make you feel good about yourself?


CharlesLSU
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make you feel good about yourself?


uhhh...what? wasn't aware that was my agenda. making myself feel better.

AND, if one life is spared due to them, its worth it.

I do agree the frequency is low, but one event that could've been lessened is too many.


LNCHBOX
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AND, if one life is spared due to them, its worth it.



Sweet emotional argument.
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I do agree the frequency is low, but one event that could've been lessened is too many.


Guess we better just put everyone in a bubble so no one gets hurt ever. If it saves even just one life, it's worth it, right?


Brageous
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re: School safety: A few things to increase it
I'm sure there's a better way to handle it than the current system. To me, the training in response time should be addressed as much as anything. Over an hour before a suspect is in custody at a school is a long time. Another issue is figuring out the best way to make the schools safe to begin with. Having an officer at every school is great and all until we realize just how much it costs. Maybe somehow create a rotation amongst schools in a sq mile radius for various officers on duty.

Tragedies can't be averted completely, but we could create a tougher environment for bad people to do bad things. We can also find faster ways to end the killing so more don't die.


lynxcat
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This is already extremely infrequent. It's a horrible tragedy, but statistically, how much less can it even happen?



Relative to the rest of the world, the US is an outlier on the frequency of these mass shootings.


TH03
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re: School safety: A few things to increase it
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This is already extremely infrequent. It's a horrible tragedy, but statistically, how much less can it even happen?

How much money will be wasted just to make these hoops that make you feel good about yourself?


Seriously. This doesn't happen as often as people think at all.


CharlesLSU
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re: School safety: A few things to increase it
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Guess we better just put everyone in a bubble so no one gets hurt ever. If it saves even just one life, it's worth it, right?


hopefully you never have to feel it. but, by all means, keep that TD bravado going young man.

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LNCHBOX
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I don't work there anymore, but nice dig. And way to edit it out, pussy.

Sorry your logic falls apart so easily.
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tigerinthebueche
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re: School safety: A few things to increase it
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Guess we better just put everyone in a bubble so no one gets hurt ever. If it saves even just one life, it's worth it, right?


this. Why is it so hard for some people to grasp the concept that their is no way to protect people-kids, teens, adults, whatever- from all harm? All this shite that gets thrown around in the wake of a tragedy is always emotional.

How many students were in class yesterday across the country? How many died at the hands of a school shooter?

Take all of this energy responding to this event, and focus it on something about which you can actually have an impact.

If everyone put all this emotion and effort into "the children" on the days when no one shoots up a school, maybe the school shootings would be even less frequent. Maybe. But you still won't stop the individual intent on harm.


LSUSUPERSTAR
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re: School safety: A few things to increase it
1 - Elimintate "Gun Free Zones"

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UpToPar
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re: School safety: A few things to increase it
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Having an officer at every school is great and all until we realize just how much it costs. Maybe somehow create a rotation amongst schools in a sq mile radius for various officers on duty.


This doesn't really work that well unless you had multiple. Having one officer at the school just ensures that he's target #1 since hes the only person in the school that has a gun.


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jbgleason
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re: School safety: A few things to increase it
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Having an officer at every school is great and all until we realize just how much it costs.


Maybe but at a school with 3,000 kids it would seem reasonable they would have a full-time Officer. And if that dude was doing his job, he would have been aware of this kid and could have possibly referred him for mental health services.


stewie
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re: School safety: A few things to increase it
I'm so glad you didn't say, "allow teenagers to bring guns to school to defend themselves."



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Byron Bojangles III
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re: School safety: A few things to increase it
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Seriously. This doesn't happen as often as people think at all.
one time is too much. Jesus


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UpToPar
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re: School safety: A few things to increase it
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And if that dude was doing his job, he would have been aware of this kid and could have possibly referred him for mental health services.


From what I understand, the kid was no longer a student at the school.


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Sidicous
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re: School safety: A few things to increase it
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Take all of this energy responding to this event, and focus it on something about which you can actually have an impact.

If everyone put all this emotion and effort into "the children" on the days when no one shoots up a school, maybe the school shootings would be even less frequent. Maybe. But you still won't stop the individual intent on harm.


Excellent point.^

My Dad and his brothers and other students used to take their rifles and shotguns, and ammo, on the bus to school so they could go hunting after school. Know how many of them shot at a person or got shot at? Zero!

Know what the difference was primarily back then? Clear and precise boundaries.

Now we have fuzzy boundaries at best and no boundaries at worst. Age 18 can marry/divorce, can give life and limb on battlefield, but no cigs or beer for you! Stay on parents insurance till 26. No longer a line dividing gender even: male today, gone tomorrow.

Then add in the single "parent" households where the so called parent is away from the home all the time. Or the 2 "parent" household where neither has time for a single kid but yet they have many. Oh I know, let's pay some random strangers with a fancy signage to raise our kids for us! Yeah daycare is great for young minds and bodies.

Face it, life is a cornucopia of offerings. But your pockets and hands can only contain so much. Decisions have to be made on what to hold onto and what to forego. So far, Americans choose to let go of child raising and hand that off to others (daycare, schools, etc.).

So now we get these kids killing kids constantly, not always at schools. No boundaries and no parenting are the big differences. The 2 (parenting and boundaries) usually go hand in hand.


magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
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re: School safety: A few things to increase it
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Budget on-site school law enforcement to a significantly higher level including more training




I don't understand why schools have to budget police.

Why can't we post on-duty cops at schools instead of having them trying to catch speeders and inspection sticker violaters?


Alt26
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re: School safety: A few things to increase it
I don't disagree with any of that. Here's an issue I see due to the "we don't want to hurt anyone's feelings" society we live in today.

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Be more vigilant in investigating the clues (social media provides many)


All the time we hear "See something. Say something." But, if you "say something" there is a high probability you will be accused of being racist, prejudiced, a bully, etc.

I'm sure most of us went to high school with a handful of weird MFer's. People who if you took a poll of "most likely to shoot up the school" would win in a landslide. Yet, if you tell an administrator that _____ is a "weird guy" that needs to be looked at the outrage brigade would come out in full force to call you a "bully." If that particular person was not a straight white male then you would be both a Bully AND a bigot/racist. Just look what happen when the Muslim kind in Texas built a "clock" that just so happened to resemble a bomb moreso than a clock. Students and teachers "said something" and predictable outrage ensued. Everyone involved was called a racist and the fricking President of the United States brought the kid to the White House and commended him as some sort of "great innovator".

Now, thankfully, it wasn't a bomb and no one was hurt. But I guarantee that if another "clock" built by a Muslim kid happens to show up at a school the teachers, administration, students, etc. will be much more hesitant to "say something" for fear of being smeared by the media and social media as "racist".

It's a juxtaposition that many today won't allow to be reconciled because not hurting someone's feelings is evidently paramount to possible preventing mass killings. I'm sure it happens, but it's relatively rare that happy, popular, social people decide one day to massacre fellow humans for no apparent reason whatsoever. But God forbid you point out some anti-social loser or a Muslim person may have mass terror proclivities.

It's not the ONLY cause of these events. But the ridiculous PC culture we live in today doesn't help in trying to prevent them.


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