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re: Savannah Guthrie’s mom missing - being held for ransom - suspect photos released

Posted on 2/10/26 at 12:27 pm to
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1933 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 12:27 pm to
Okay, definitely walks like a man. But really, why on earth would you show your face at all to a camera if this was premeditated? Put on sunglasses or something.
Posted by HenryParsons
Member since Aug 2018
2075 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 12:28 pm to
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Is this just code that Amazon or whoever the doorbell camera was from (Nest) is uploading and storing your camera’s images regardless of having a subscription or not???

Might have still had internet access thru WiFi, but Amazon Sidewalk is probably helping Amazon to gather up a ton of data.



yup
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32708 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 12:29 pm to
So the doorbell camera was actually working and got video of the assailant.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
84988 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 12:30 pm to
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So the doorbell camera was actually working and got video of the assailant.


It was always working. The deal was she didn't have a subscription, so they assumed the video was never saved.

Sounds like the FBI worked with NEST on the back end and were able to pull it even though there was no subscription to save.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
39852 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 12:31 pm to
What kind of idiot grabs a plant to block a door cameras shot? A Gardener who just made a massive Freudian slip
This post was edited on 2/10/26 at 12:33 pm
Posted by SallysHuman
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Member since Jan 2025
21552 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 12:33 pm to
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But really, why on earth would you show your face at all to a camera if this was premeditated? Put on sunglasses or something.


If the person was knowledgeable about Nancy not having a subscription, that would explain it.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
84988 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 12:33 pm to
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When kind of idiot grabs a plant to block a door cameras shot?


Def doesn't seem like the smartest person... Which all but rules out the ransom being from him.


Sounds like more video about to be released. They said another camera triggered after this one, so its prob that video.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
84988 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 12:40 pm to
Kash just updated initial video of him walking up... He puts his head down when he realizes there is a camera.

Bright reflection off his mouth. Dude def has some bright white teeth or gold/platinum.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110887 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 12:40 pm to
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quote:
Is this just code that Amazon or whoever the doorbell camera was from (Nest) is uploading and storing your camera’s images regardless of having a subscription or not???

Might have still had internet access thru WiFi, but Amazon Sidewalk is probably helping Amazon to gather up a ton of data.

yup


They gonna go nearly 2 weeks into a kidnapping before releasing so the public will think it’s hard for them to retrieve?
Posted by Rouxdee
Member since Nov 2021
739 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 12:42 pm to
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Bright reflection off his mouth. Dude def has some bright white teeth or gold/platinum.

Penlight?
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1933 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 12:42 pm to
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If the person was knowledgeable about Nancy not having a subscription, that would explain it.


But they took the time to cover it with a plant. I'm thinking a robbery in a full on burka is the best bet ha ha.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
96822 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 12:44 pm to
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Will be interesting to see if they also have video or just stills....



Breaking911 has the video. Dude is creepy.

The thing on his belt does look like a holster in the video
This post was edited on 2/10/26 at 12:45 pm
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
12636 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 12:46 pm to
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It was always working. The deal was she didn't have a subscription, so they assumed the video was never saved. Sounds like the FBI worked with NEST on the back end and were able to pull it even though there was no subscription to save.


Some of these devices have SD slots or local memory to store data.


I think my new bird feeder cam works that way. If I want to archive the video beyond its local storage capacity, I have to pay for it.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84434 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 12:46 pm to
You’re covered from head to toe and still worried over the ring camera. Has to be someone known to the victim.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
84988 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 12:48 pm to
He will be caught/identified within 24hrs. Too many tells.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87290 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 12:48 pm to
I always wonder if there is some consideration in these situations re: how much they want to reveal just how far the capabilities of LE and big tech go.

"Kash make it sound like it was a near impossible task to get access to this footage that nobody thought existed"
Posted by LCA131
Home of the Fake Sig lines
Member since Feb 2008
77228 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 12:50 pm to
Back pack stuffed full. Of what? Does his posture indicate he's used to carrying a back pack. Non black dude. Right handed. Not planned very well, but NOT random. Why wouldn't you have a piece of making tape to cover the nest camera. Moustache.

She's not still alive.
This post was edited on 2/10/26 at 1:00 pm
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1933 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 12:50 pm to
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I always wonder if there is some consideration in these situations re: how much they want to reveal just how far the capabilities of LE and big tech go.


Our phones are listening to us 24/7 and it's all probably recorded somewhere. We walk around our houses giving the cameras a walk through to every detail.

They don't even need to be that capable because we allow it.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
84988 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 12:51 pm to
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"Kash make it sound like it was a near impossible task to get access to this footage that nobody thought existed"


Could have been a red herring... While trying to figure out if the ransom note was legit or not and not wanting to endanger her if still alive, they were holding back what they had.

Once they confirmed it was fake, they throw it all out there and burn it down.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68285 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 12:52 pm to
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I always wonder if there is some consideration in these situations re: how much they want to reveal just how far the capabilities of LE and big tech go.


Of course. They want the criminals to keep implicating themselves. It's still a relatively little known fact that an ancestry dna test is the easiest way to catch an unknown criminal that left DNA at a scene. Even if the criminal themselves hasn't done the test, if any distant family has, they can quickly narrow their search from millions to a couple handfuls.
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