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re: Safeguards around ‘Doomsday Glacier’ could collapse within 5 years, scientists warn

Posted on 12/29/21 at 6:44 pm to
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 12/29/21 at 6:44 pm to
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The glacier itself holds enough water to raise sea levels by over 2 feet. The level jumps by 10 feet if it takes the surrounding glaciers with it.


Yet prog global warming pushers are still buying oceanfront property worth millions

Makes you think
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 12/29/21 at 6:46 pm to
Isn’t this what happened in day after tomorrow?
Posted by Art Vandelay
LOUISIANA
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Posted on 12/29/21 at 6:49 pm to
So the water came from somewhere to create that glacier. So aren’t we just returning sea levels to normal?

Can we put the polar bears on this glacier soon to be iceberg so they don’t have to live on those little blocks of ice?
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103498 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 6:52 pm to
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So the water came from somewhere to create that glacier. So aren’t we just returning sea levels to normal?


No. Or at least not a normal any of us has ever seen.

quote:

Can we put the polar bears on this glacier soon to be iceberg so they don’t have to live on those little blocks of ice?


Wrong pole, but I like the idea.

Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 12/29/21 at 6:54 pm to
Antarctica has been gaining ice for decades
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Posted on 12/29/21 at 6:54 pm to
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So the water came from somewhere to create that glacier. So aren’t we just returning sea levels to normal?


No. There is a finite amount of water on the planet. The less that is locked up in ice over land the more the oceans rise, and the less ice there is to reflect heat back away from the surface, and the warmer the water is the stronger storms get because more water evaporates and fuels them.
This post was edited on 12/29/21 at 6:56 pm
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 12/29/21 at 7:03 pm to
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the warmer the water is the stronger storms get


Scientists have quit the IPCC over this very comment. They claim the opposite. It would make sense since violent tornadoes have been decreasing for 70 years. Hurricanes are the same
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 12/29/21 at 7:07 pm to
I remember when we were on the verge of the next ice age.

Scientists change their story regularly to keep the money flowing.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 7:09 pm to
I’ve been reading a lot about it lately and I think the odds of our near future going colder is higher than warmer. There are several cycles at play and a few cold ones are going to land around the same time (I.e. gleisberg cycle). JMO
This post was edited on 12/29/21 at 7:10 pm
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103498 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 7:19 pm to
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I remember when we were on the verge of the next ice age.


We are currently in an ice age, hence the permanently frozen poles.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41343 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 7:22 pm to
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Fill cup with ice, top off w water.

Let melt - cup does not overflow.

Weird


Now fill up a cup of water with ice above the top of the cup. Let it melt. Make sure to use your iPad or phone as the coaster.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
30026 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 7:26 pm to
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Total surface area of earth-196,900,000 square miles.
Total water surface area-139,000,000 square miles
Florida-66,000 square miles


Yeah, their numbers are bullshite.


You haven't remotely begun to do the math but did just enough to feed your confirmation bias. All you did was compare surface area when the only thing that matters is volume.

There is a paper reviewed journal article published by Nature that makes the 65cm prediction but it is behind a paywall.

The math is simple, the data is complex and difficult to obtain accurately. You need the surface area of the ocean in modern sat imagery days that is rather "easy" but you also need the average depth to determine volume. That is much more difficult and I have no idea how accurate of a estimate we have. Then you need the same date to determine the volume of the ice and convert that to volume of liquid water even converting that to average ocean temperature if you are being really exact.

To further complicate things because the "sides" of the ocean aren't vertical you have to take into account that each successive unit of increase in the level of the oceans requires more water than the last increase of the same unit.


If someone wants to buy the study to see where the glaciers cleaving would cause 65cm of rise in the oceans is cited from here is the link

Nature

It will cost $8.99 unless someone has access to a Nature sub.

Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 12/29/21 at 7:27 pm to
I put this along with Y2K, and 2012…
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
57894 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 7:29 pm to
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Ok. A glacier the size of Florida is enough to raise sea levels 2 feet?

Considering water makes up almost 75% of the surface of earth, I'd like to see the math on this.


This. I'm calling bullshite.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 7:30 pm to
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You haven't remotely begun to do the math but did just enough to feed your confirmation bias. All you did was compare surface area when the only thing that matters is volume.


No, actually I can do the mental math to know the vertical component of the glacier in question is not sufficient.

But keep being a pretentious douchebag.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41757 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 7:31 pm to
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Storing up sand bags now.


Mayor Broome just announced they are giving out sand bags at Memorial Stadium, Forrest Park and at St. George Fire headquarters.

Oh and don’t forget you have to bring your own shovel.
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
8156 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 7:32 pm to
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There is a paper reviewed journal article published by Nature that makes the 65cm prediction but it is behind a paywall.


Exactly. No doubt they’ve done the volume math and it’s absolutely laughable that Bucky can get so many upvotes for comparing surface area of the glacier vs total sea surface area.
Posted by BBATiger
Member since Jun 2005
16712 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 7:34 pm to
Can I get sandbags if I’m not vacinnated?
Posted by DomincDecoco
RIP Ronnie fights Thoth’s loafers
Member since Oct 2018
11684 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 7:35 pm to
We need that smart nerd from Brewsters Millions that put the turbines in the iceberg.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 7:38 pm to
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No doubt they’ve done the volume math and it’s absolutely laughable that Bucky can get so many upvotes for comparing surface area of the glacier vs total sea surface area.



It's laughable that clowns like you and Obtuse think that when one references surface area they are not also taking into account thickness of the layer.

A glacier the size of Africa wouldn't appreciably raise levels if it was an inch thick.

But you guys keep on sucking each others cocks.
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