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re: Running a generator through a dryer outlet

Posted on 9/10/24 at 11:43 am to
Posted by Auburn80
Backwater, TN
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 9/10/24 at 11:43 am to
My only calluses are from playing the guitar. I leave this stuff to the real baws.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34782 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 11:44 am to
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I didn't see anyone say that other than you projecting your interpretation on what others are actually saying.



plenty have said...its a huge fire risk, risk of killing others and risk of electrocution....and all those can be risk...if you are dumb
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34782 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 11:46 am to
quote:

My house has an interlock on the outside breaker and a plug-in that accepts the female end of a 50a cord, but I've not had to run my house with my portable generator since I've had it. I turn it over about once every three months or so and run it for about 15 minutes just so I know it works and so I'll stay familiar with it when I need it quickly.


dont really need to pull the meter then

quote:


How does one do this? I would've know to flip the main breaker, and in my mind, that would be isolating the house from the lines upstream, but didn't know one could "pull the meter".


1) simply cut main breaker
2) cut the lock/clip on the meter box
3) pull the meter
4) stick piece of wood over the opening so when power is restored someone cant reach in there


but if you have an interlock, dont worry about pulling the meter, that is just an extra precaution that opens up more possible issues in its own right
Posted by Jon A thon
Member since May 2019
2133 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 11:48 am to
It really shouldn't cause a problem that would cause a fire. You are still running through all your breakers to protect wiring from amperage overload. The issue is having the main breaker closed, which will backfeed the grid and/or hit your generator with electricity that it's not designed for when the power comes back on.

Electrical fires are going to be caused by overheating wires, which is a function of current, which is controlled by breakers.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
17631 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 11:48 am to
Backfeeding is so stupid. Spend the $500 and get a transfer switch installed.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28997 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 11:49 am to
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plenty have said...its a huge fire risk, risk of killing others and risk of electrocution....and all those can be risk...if you are dumb
Yeah I see "risk" numerous times which are legit risks. You are the only one talking about certain death and death sentences, and then you accuse the others of hyperbole.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34782 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 11:53 am to
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Yeah I see "risk" numerous times which are legit risks


if you do exactly in the order i said...there is no risk
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 9/10/24 at 11:54 am to
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Who'd he play for?


The rural electrification administration during the great depression....
Posted by 75503Tiger
Member since Sep 2015
4821 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 11:54 am to
For the county
And he drove the main roads
Posted by 75503Tiger
Member since Sep 2015
4821 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 11:54 am to
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Backfeeding is so stupid. Spend the $500 and get a transfer switch installed.


If you live in an area prone to outages this is the only answer
This post was edited on 9/10/24 at 11:56 am
Posted by BigPapiDoesItAgain
Amérique du Nord
Member since Nov 2009
3193 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 11:55 am to
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but its not some crazy wild arse idea either that means certain death like some of you like to think

I like the way you put that partner. Black and White.
Posted by loopback
Member since Jul 2011
4945 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 11:56 am to
What size generator would I need to power my whole house? Including my central AC.
Posted by piratedude
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2009
2675 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 11:56 am to
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It works. Just plug it in. Nothing more to it.


except feeding electricity into an outlet feeds it through the meter, into the lines, where an entergy lineman can discover it by getting fried. don't be a dumbass
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28997 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

if you do exactly in the order i said...there is no risk

There is always a risk, as you acknowledged with your reply to another poster about securing the plug in the outlet. And what if someone comes behind you and flips the main breaker back on?

You can lay out all the steps to safety that you like, but there is always risk especially when you can't control the actions of others.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34782 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

What size generator would I need to power my whole house? Including my central AC.


that depends on the size of the AC, how many circuits, what you have running, what you want to run etc

do you want gas or natural gas


i mean some people can get away with running something like a predator 9500.....some need something bigger

i will say i didnt have power for over 6 weeks during laura, had an older 20kw air cooled generac....i became an expert on changing the step up motor quickly....when i built my new house i went with a 60kw liquid cooled Briggs and straton ....not everyone needs anything close to that....but the nature on my wifes job and even mine, means we need to be back almost immediately so we wanted to be comfortable to not have to worry about what we would run and not run. I wanted my MIL who has a MIL suite in the house to be comfortable and not have to worry....etc etc
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34782 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 12:09 pm to
quote:

There is always a risk, as you acknowledged with your reply to another poster about securing the plug in the outlet. And what if someone comes behind you and flips the main breaker back on?

You can lay out all the steps to safety that you like, but there is always risk especially when you can't control the actions of others.


jesus christ

what if you have a whole home and the transfer switch fails?

what if you get in a car wreck and die on the way to work?

we cant make things completely risk free but if you flip the main and pull the meter and do the steps i said...pretty much make it about as risk free as possible and about as much risk as having an interlock put in
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34782 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 12:10 pm to
quote:


except feeding electricity into an outlet feeds it through the meter, into the lines, where an entergy lineman can discover it by getting fried. don't be a dumbass


not if you flip the main and pull the meter which was explained over and over and over in this thread
Posted by Split2874
Mandeville
Member since Jul 2012
2947 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 12:10 pm to
I read the OP as dryer vent and was wondering what the issue was.

I run an extension cord from my generator through my dryer vent into my house.

I have a dryer plug and I have been told it would work by an electrician, but I have never tried it, so I will be safe and do it the old fashion way
This post was edited on 9/10/24 at 12:11 pm
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
39781 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

What size generator would I need to power my whole house? Including my central AC.


You have a gas or electric hot water heater?
Posted by loopback
Member since Jul 2011
4945 posts
Posted on 9/10/24 at 12:14 pm to
Gas tankless heater
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