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re: RUNNERS: 16 Year Old Teen Dies After First Half Marathon

Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:32 am to
Posted by NawlinsTigah270
Mile High
Member since Jun 2008
13115 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:32 am to
Such a shame. I'm perfectly fine doing 5k's only
Posted by Seven Costanza
The Wild West
Member since Aug 2012
2032 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:32 am to
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Know your limits.


This!

Gradually increase your mileage and speed. Listen to your body. People complain that running "hurt" them. Most of the time, it is just the fact that they did too much too soon. Would I love to go bench press 400 lbs at the gym? Yea, but if I did I would kill myself until I trained up to that (I know. I know. Beta). It's the same thing with running. Don't get off the couch and try to run as far as possible.

ETA: Spelling
This post was edited on 3/19/14 at 10:33 am
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45219 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:32 am to
The first guy who ran a Marathon died. There's your answer.
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
53958 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:34 am to
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I dont think distance running is healthy. A couple miles is one thing but tge human body wasnt designed for this marathon shite.


Nah brah. It's all conditioning.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
37850 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:35 am to
get an ekg
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83294 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:38 am to
Life is fragile. Don't think about it too hard.
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Am I going to die?

There's a good chance
Posted by prince of fools
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
1130 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:45 am to
Someone died. Save our kids and ban this marathons!
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:50 am to
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Doesn't seem like a long time- but I am not a distance runner.


For an athlete with a decent cardio "baseline", nine weeks isn't out of the question as long as you're not looking to set any records. I think 11-15 or so is more standard, though.

Disclaimer, also not a distance runner. I do four miles four times a week and am happy with that. I did one 10K and hated it, and started to train for a half marathon but decided it was fricking stupid.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
73290 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:52 am to
probably had an diagnosed heart condition.
Posted by guedeaux
Member since Jan 2008
13830 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:53 am to
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If you run long distance chances are to name a few:


So, bro-science...

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You aren't overweight


bullshite. There are so many people that are overweight that I see "running" long distances at half marathons, marathons, 5k, 10k, etc. The elite long distance runners are extremely skinny, however, your average weekend warrior is still technically overweight.

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You have low blood pressure


sufficient muscular exertion can produce the same beneficial decreases in blood pressure

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You have a low resting heart rate


not necessarily. When I was running a shite load, my resting heart rate barely changed. So anecdotal evidence to disprove your bro-science.

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Your good cholesterol is high and your bad cholesterol is low


not due to running. this is directly correlated to adipose levels, so again the elite, lean runners benefit from being naturally lean, not from running

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The differences were highly correlated (r = 0.80) with the theory’s predictions (ie, the HDL-cholesterol differences predicted by applying the regression slope for change in HDL-cholesterol vs. change in adiposity to the average differences in adiposity between the runners and sedentary men). These analyses suggest that comparing long-distance runners to a reference population suitably matched for adiposity, and adjusting for adiposity by ANCOVA may each seriously underestimate the contribution of the runners’ leanness to their HDL concentrations. These results suggest that the elevated HDL-cholesterol concentrations of long-distance runners are primarily a phenomenon of reduced adiposity.


LINK

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You are less stressed


Um, what? Needing to get in all those training hours, etc. Need to purchase new shoes. Damn, late for work today, gonna have to run tonight. Can't do it tonight, because have to pick up kids. Now I have to wake up super early tomorrow to get in those miles... Stuck in traffic, not gonna make it to running club in time...

Something that takes away hours of your week is not, at least to me, relieving stress.

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You sleep more soundly


When I was doing 6 hours of training a week, I slept fitfully and sweated like a motherfricker (most likely due to the body processing all of those toxins released by extensive aerobically powered muscle contractions)

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All of this things will help prevent any serious illness as well as promote a longer life.


Any repetitive motion will eventually cause issues. Now that life-expectancy is in the 70s and 80s, those injuries that we might not feel as 20-40 year olds will rear their ugly heads the older you get. Furthermore, sarcopenia is the natural loss of muscle tissue with age. Running long distances trains your body to lose muscle mass and improve the efficiency of muscles (look at elite long distance runner, scrawny as hell), so as sarcopenia begins, you will be wasting away even faster.

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I will say a lot of this may be just due to a healthy diet.


Bingo

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However speaking from personal experience, the more I am running the more I want to eat healthy. It completely changes my mentality about my diet when I start to increase that rate at which I run.


Actually, running ramps up your appetite and more often leads to breaking of diet regimens as opposed to improving them. It is much easier to not over indulge on calories if your body is not craving them

I am not saying that running does not confer some benefits, however, the potential risks and injuries do not make the benefits worthwhile in my opinion. Also, there are much safer and less time-consuming ways to reduce fat, build muscle, and increase you health status.

For more anecdotal evidence, I workout ~15 min/week and I am in better shape now then when I worked out/ran >6 hours per week. Now I have more time for skill training, e.g. driving range and sprints (for increased speed in intramural sports), am less stressed, sleep more soundly, have less fat and more muscle, and my recent physical saw that I was in perfect health (blood pressure, cholesterol, etc.) aside from some genetic presents from my parents.


Posted by guedeaux
Member since Jan 2008
13830 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:54 am to
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The first guy who ran a Marathon died. There's your answer.


truth hahaha
Posted by LoveThatMoney
Who knows where?
Member since Jan 2008
12411 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:56 am to
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I dont think distance running is healthy. A couple miles is one thing but tge human body wasnt designed for this marathon shite.


True to a degree, actually. I think most health professionals who have looked into it have said something like 5 miles at a time is the ideal maximum. After that, you start to really break your body down. And frankly, you don't need to be able to run that much to maintain a level of physical conditioning that will keep you healthy throughout your life.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91797 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:02 am to
bike racing is way more fun.

plus it doesnt take but a couple months to get conditioned to the point you're able to go 100+ miles without difficulty.

plus the change of scenery is much better over long distances.
Posted by CAT
Central Arkansas
Member since Aug 2006
7268 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:04 am to
2014 research, we don't know the cause

Have they or can you measure levels such as magnesium and potassium in autopsies? I've heard a theory of low magnesium levels could be a cause. Don't remember where that was.

Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
33109 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:05 am to
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if you are trying to get in shape or "stay healthy" running is a waste of time and most likely doing more harm than good.

Posted by Seven Costanza
The Wild West
Member since Aug 2012
2032 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:06 am to
To each is own.

For me, it reduces stress because I can just think and relax. When I am running, I don't have to worry about anything but the next step. I am not a professional athlete, so if I miss a run due to work, family, or just life, I definitely don't stress about it. I don't usually listen to music. I just enjoy the world around me.

All of my other opinions are from my own experience. I have been running for 10+ years. My heart rate is below 50. My blood pressure is well below 120/80. Like I said, it may be due to my diet. I have self control, so I don't overindulge just because I ran 14 miles that day. I eat slowly until I am full. I make sure I am eating a lot of fruits and vegetables. I spread smaller meals out over my day.

I haven't had any effects of running a lot. Will I one day? Who knows? Maybe. I saw in the news yesterday that a 90 something year old run a marathon, so I am pretty hopeful that I'll be the same way. I do know that when I try to overdo it I hurt. So, I do think it is important to listen to your body and take it easy.

I am not saying running is the best way to stay in shape and be healthy. Hell, swimming is definitely better, in my opinion. I don't only run. Crossfit might even be better. Running works for me because I enjoy it. So like I said, to each his own. As long as you are striving for a healthy life, I am happy for you.

ETA: Genetically, we are all different. What works for one person may actually harm another. I don't think anyone can prove running is unhealthy for you, when there are people that run well over 100 miles a week. Maybe they just genetic predispositions to be able to handle that. Their joints and muscles may be more capable to handle that kind of stress. Once again, this is my opinion. I have no research to back any of this up at this time.
With widely dispersed settlements, these people developed a tradition of long-distance running up to 200 miles (320 km) in one session, over a period of two days through their homeland of rough canyon country, for inter-village communication and transportation and hunting.
This post was edited on 3/19/14 at 11:12 am
Posted by Burlee
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2006
7324 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:10 am to
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listen to your body

if you get dizzy/light headed stop fricking running


I have done this several times during races - including this year's NOLA full. Wow, was it hot and humid that day. Had to run/walk to finish.
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15911 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:11 am to
Ban long distance running. Only causes medical problems later on and sprinting is vastly superior
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
49017 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:12 am to
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Is there a way to check if you have a heart defect (such as an enlarged heart) or would that require surgery and isn't very feasible

Cardiologist orders up a heart ultrasound. It's a easy way to see the heart in action and measure flows, valves, rhythms etc. Ridleys mom did mine in Natchez.
Posted by Burlee
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2006
7324 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:13 am to
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bike racing is way more fun.

plus it doesnt take but a couple months to get conditioned to the point you're able to go 100+ miles without difficulty.

plus the change of scenery is much better over long distances.


I hear what you're saying and, to some extent, I agree. But, when running, I've never broken a collarbone, suffered significant head trauma, severe road rash, etc...all of which I've seen while riding.
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