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re: RUNNERS: 16 Year Old Teen Dies After First Half Marathon

Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:14 am to
Posted by 12Pence
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:14 am to
God that's terrible. I have heard of people croaking over marathons, but never a half.
This post was edited on 3/19/14 at 11:15 am
Posted by 12Pence
Member since Jan 2013
6344 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:16 am to
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I dont think distance running is healthy. A couple miles is one thing but tge human body wasnt designed for this marathon shite.


Meh. I'll argue the exact opposite.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18668 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:18 am to
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I workout ~15 min/week


Body by science?
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47498 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:18 am to
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God that's terrible. I have heard of people croaking over marathons, but never a half

People ought not get worked up. Running is one of the cheapest, most efficient and effective methods of improving health, especially cardiovascular health. If your Dr doesn't advise against vigorous exercise, get moving! Best time of year to start a program.
This post was edited on 3/19/14 at 11:19 am
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36624 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:19 am to
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yeah if you just want to finish

not if you actually want to run it



That's all i wanted, i was half sure i was going to do it. I was mainly training just to drop lbs
Posted by 12Pence
Member since Jan 2013
6344 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:19 am to
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bike racing is way more fun.


I love riding my bike throughout trails, but the idea of bike racing just doesn't do it for me.
Posted by guedeaux
Tardis
Member since Jan 2008
13610 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:23 am to
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Genetically, we are all different. What works for one person may actually harm another. I don't think anyone can prove running is unhealthy for you, when there are people that run well over 100 miles a week. Maybe they just genetic predispositions to be able to handle that. Their joints and muscles may be more capable to handle that kind of stress. Once again, this is my opinion. I have no research to back any of this up at this time.


I have lots of research, and this is correct. people judge what can be accomplished based on what they see the elite 0.01% of humans, i.e., professional athletes, doing. Those people are literally genetic freaks. Alternatively you have these groups like the one you posted who developed running as part of their culture. Guess who doesn't live long in those cultures? people who can't run well. Also, who is not bangin tarahumara 10's (OT 0.1s)? people who can't run well. Likewise, "adulthood is usually short for the Tarahumara with the average life expectancy being forty-five," so the long-term effects are not as much of as a factor.
Posted by guedeaux
Tardis
Member since Jan 2008
13610 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:23 am to
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Body by science?


yeah
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83571 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:25 am to
I run long because I enjoy it. It's my therapy. I'm not trying to get a 6 pack.
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
32494 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:25 am to
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I hear what you're saying and, to some extent, I agree. But, when running, I've never broken a collarbone, suffered significant head trauma, severe road rash, etc...all of which I've seen while riding.

That is when I quit, never really thought of it as dangerous until then.
Posted by Seven Costanza
The Wild West
Member since Aug 2012
1981 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:27 am to
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I have lots of research, and this is correct. people judge what can be accomplished based on what they see the elite 0.01% of humans, i.e., professional athletes, doing. Those people are literally genetic freaks. Alternatively you have these groups like the one you posted who developed running as part of their culture. Guess who doesn't live long in those cultures? people who can't run well. Also, who is not bangin tarahumara 10's (OT 0.1s)? people who can't run well. Likewise, "adulthood is usually short for the Tarahumara with the average life expectancy being forty-five," so the long-term effects are not as much of as a factor.


I see. Interesting, interesting
If you have links for any research related, I wouldn't mind perusing it today.
Posted by guedeaux
Tardis
Member since Jan 2008
13610 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:29 am to
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I run long because I enjoy it. It's my therapy. I'm not trying to get a 6 pack.


Then more power to you. I used to love running and every now and then I go for a 3 or 5 miler just to get the blood flowing or if the weather is really nice. But now I mainly prefer improving my score on the golf course. I am thinking about doing another half-marathon but using a sprint/weight-lifting focused training with only long runs on the weekends.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32482 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:31 am to
Sounds like she may have had a heart defect, like Pontiff and my mom.
Posted by guedeaux
Tardis
Member since Jan 2008
13610 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:31 am to
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If you have links for any research related, I wouldn't mind perusing it today.


read these articles, then buy the book and expand your mind. Changed my life, and that is not hyperbole.

LINK
Posted by Upperaltiger06
North Alabama
Member since Feb 2012
3946 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:32 am to
My opinion is that any thing over a 5k is getting silly. A few studies have already pointed that running >30-40 miles per week returns you CV risks to sedentary and may be more harmful. One study
Posted by Seven Costanza
The Wild West
Member since Aug 2012
1981 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:34 am to
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read these articles, then buy the book and expand your mind. Changed my life, and that is not hyperbole.


Nice, I am always up for an educating book. Thanks
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83571 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:34 am to
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My opinion is that any thing over a 5k is getting silly.


and my opinion is that anything <5k is just silly. It's barely a workout
Posted by Upperaltiger06
North Alabama
Member since Feb 2012
3946 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:35 am to
Likely a cardiomyopathy.
Posted by Upperaltiger06
North Alabama
Member since Feb 2012
3946 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:38 am to
You read the article? The thought is that by running longer distances you create more oxidative stress in the body. Who the hell knows? I will say I've seen a couple of late 40s/early 50s marathon runners with significant calcification of their abdominal aortas.....surprised me.
Posted by guedeaux
Tardis
Member since Jan 2008
13610 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:38 am to
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and my opinion is that anything <5k is just silly. It's barely a workout


I think that is a good point. Anything less than 5k and you definitely are not getting any benefit of burning calories (it is quite easy for your muscles to handle this). On the other hand, running long enough to actually burn sufficient calories to have a fat-burning effect increases the risk of injury. And a running club has about as many injuries as your nearest crossfit cube or box or whatever those people call it.
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