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re: Ronaldo admits rape accuser said no multiple times but he apologized after raping her
Posted on 12/1/18 at 12:22 pm to JodyPlauche
Posted on 12/1/18 at 12:22 pm to JodyPlauche
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Sex offender
Ok fine.
The problem is during the heat of intercourse how is it possible to know what specific sex acts someone is ok with. How long is your consent form? I just think It’s a different circumstance when there is a misinterpretation of what someone desires when they have already agreed to have sex.
How many guys around here talk about putting a finger in the butt while having sex? If you do that with every intention of trying to pleasure the girl.... are all those guys rapists?
Posted on 12/1/18 at 12:23 pm to JodyPlauche
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I assumed in the scenario that the unwanted neck kissing led to forced sex. If it didn't its just a dumb question.
No that’s just a dumb assumption
Posted on 12/1/18 at 12:25 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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The problem is during the heat of intercourse how is it possible to know what specific sex acts someone is ok with.
You ask
Posted on 12/1/18 at 12:30 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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No that’s just a dumb assumption
In a discussion about rape that not a dumb assumption.
What is totally stupid is not knowing the difference between a unwanted neck kiss and aggravated sexual baterry.
Posted on 12/1/18 at 12:33 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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I’m just concerned about a slippery slope given that liberals in this country like to take everything to the extremes
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i'm probably one of the most socially liberal people you'll ever meet.... not all progressive thinking people think/act this way, just so you know...
Posted on 12/1/18 at 12:37 pm to JodyPlauche
Ok bud, I’m not going to argue with you. You think you are infallible.
I agree the Ronaldo case is open and shut. ChRxis was right. Ronaldo admitted he did after she said no.
But...
Sure hope you never slip a finger in your significant others butt without a signed consent first, wouldn’t want you to be labeled a rapist for the rest of your life
I agree the Ronaldo case is open and shut. ChRxis was right. Ronaldo admitted he did after she said no.
But...
Sure hope you never slip a finger in your significant others butt without a signed consent first, wouldn’t want you to be labeled a rapist for the rest of your life
Posted on 12/1/18 at 12:40 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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Ok bud, I’m not going to argue with you. You think you are infallible.
damn, bro... i was just pointing out that not all liberals can be painted with the same broad brush, not that you were wrong, and/or i was right... i understand you are getting it from all sides right now, but chill out... it's just a message board...
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Sure hope you never slip a finger in your significant others butt without a signed consent first, wouldn’t want you to be labeled a rapist for the rest of your life
if i did anything where i penetrated another human being without their consent, regardless of who it is, i would hope i WOULD be labeled a rapist for the rest of my life, because that's exactly what I WOULD be...
Posted on 12/1/18 at 12:43 pm to WaWaWeeWa
Well I hope you figure out what is and what is not consent.
Would hate to have another victim out there for other to blame and victim shame.
Would hate to have another victim out there for other to blame and victim shame.
Posted on 12/1/18 at 12:44 pm to chRxis
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chRxis
That was meant for me.
Posted on 12/1/18 at 12:44 pm to chRxis
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damn, bro
Was responding to Jody. I’m cool with you.
He’s just one of these people that thinks an overly aggressive legal system/government can’t effect him because in his mind he has never broken any rules. I’m more of a realist and see how many laws can be twisted to screw people over.
Posted on 12/1/18 at 12:44 pm to chRxis
Good god you’re a fricking pussy
Posted on 12/1/18 at 12:44 pm to FiddleHead
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He actively admits to raping her and dudes in here are still saying she’s just a lying bitch
Its disgusting.
He admitted she said no repeatedly and said she did not want to do it. Then he apologized to her for raping her afterwards.
This is coming from his mouth.
And people are saying that SHE is making it up.
Posted on 12/1/18 at 12:46 pm to JodyPlauche
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Well I hope you figure out what is and what is not consent.
Well let’s hear what it is. You seem to have it all figured out.
Posted on 12/1/18 at 12:46 pm to chRxis
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if i did anything where i penetrated another human being without their consent, regardless of who it is, i would hope i WOULD be labeled a rapist for the rest of my life, because that's exactly what I WOULD be...
I think the question is whether "consent" is 100% verbal and verbal alone.
How many sexual encounters start with "do you want to have sex?" And they respond with "yes."?
Body language is a huge factor. If this girl was taking her clothes off and sitting there letting it happen and even in some way participating in acts that contradicted her claim she didn't want it, what are we supposed to believe?
Does bodily behavior become irrelevant in light of words?
Posted on 12/1/18 at 12:47 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Body language is a huge factor. If this girl was taking her clothes off and sitting there letting it happen and even in some way participating in acts that contradicted her claim she didn't want it, what are we supposed to believe? Does bodily behavior become irrelevant in light of words?
It all becomes very subjective and contextual. I don’t think any written account of what happens in these situations can adequately describe it.
Posted on 12/1/18 at 12:48 pm to Amadeo
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Then surely he wont ever be given another $100,000,000 contract again, and in fact will be banned from soccer forever, ...and certainly no woman on earth will ever want to have anything to do with his nasty shite encrusted penis ever again, and on top of that he's certainly looking at a least a 40 year prison sentence.
...Right?
What does this have to do with anything? What a bizarre point you're trying to make.
There were hot women trying to marry Ted Bundy when he was in jail for murdering women
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Posted on 12/1/18 at 12:49 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Tbh this doesnt sound like rape IMO.
How are you so consistently nowhere near close to correct on things like this?
Posted on 12/1/18 at 12:49 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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The problem is during the heat of intercourse how is it possible to know what specific sex acts someone is ok with
Guy whispers: "I wanna put it in your arse"
Girl responds: "No, don't do that"
or
Girl responds by grabbing said dick and guiding it into her arse.
Its not that difficult to get anal consent during intercourse
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Posted on 12/1/18 at 12:50 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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Well let’s hear what it is. You seem to have it all figured out.
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“Affirmative consent is a knowing, voluntary, and mutual decision among all participants to engage in sexual activity. Consent can be given by words or actions, as long as those words or actions create clear permission regarding willingness to engage in the sexual activity. Silence or lack of resistance, in and of itself, does not demonstrate consent. The definition of consent does not vary based upon a participant's sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, or gender expression.”
Additional Mandatory Language That May Be Worded as Appropriate for Each Institution:
Consent to any sexual act or prior consensual sexual activity between or with any party does not necessarily constitute consent to any other sexual act.
Consent is required regardless of whether the person initiating the act is under the influence of drugs and/or alcohol.
Consent may be initially given but withdrawn at any time.
Consent cannot be given when a person is incapacitated, which occurs when an individual lacks the ability to knowingly choose to participate in sexual activity. Incapacitation may be caused by the lack of consciousness or being asleep, being involuntarily restrained, or if an individual otherwise cannot consent. Depending on the degree of intoxication, someone who is under the influence of alcohol, drugs, or other intoxicants may be incapacitated and therefore unable to consent.
Consent cannot be given when it is the result of any coercion, intimidation, force, or threat of harm.
When consent is withdrawn or can no longer be given, sexual activity must stop.
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