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re: Roe v Wade officially overturned
Posted on 6/24/22 at 3:26 pm to WestCoastAg
Posted on 6/24/22 at 3:26 pm to WestCoastAg
This is the best day of LNCH’s life, so much shite to argue about
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Posted on 6/24/22 at 3:28 pm to LNCHBOX
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wouldn't try to make an actual response too.
But you read enough of each response not to counter anything I've said.
- Centrist Sao
Posted on 6/24/22 at 3:29 pm to Sao
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But you read enough of each response not to counter anything I've said.
I mean, I literally showed how no one was talking about you and you inserted yourself back into the conversation, but yea I can't counter you
Posted on 6/24/22 at 3:29 pm to SoonerK
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Which right?
14th, specifically the EPC. And before you bring up 14th and Roe, read Alito's decision and save everyone some time for where you're wanting to go with this line of thinking.
The correct way to make abortion a legal right across the country is a constitutional amendment, just like the 19th gave women the right to vote nation wide.
Anything else is just skirting the legal system of this country because you don't like the results.
And again, I say that as someone who is very much pro-choice.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 3:29 pm to 50_Tiger
quote:Joe Potato Biden led off with that doozy in his call to arms speech earlier today. Then he blamed this crisis on Trump.
Anyone else annoyed the news keeps saying abortion was a constitutional right removed?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 3:31 pm to LNCHBOX
So, it's about me trying to derail an 800 response thread and just focus on you.
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Posted on 6/24/22 at 3:31 pm to Sao
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So, it's about me trying to derail an 800 response thread and just focus on you.
Never said that. Maybe try following the conevrsation
Posted on 6/24/22 at 3:32 pm to 50_Tiger
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Anyone else annoyed the news keeps saying abortion was a constitutional right removed?
Show me where in the Constitution gives the right to Abortion?
Damon Root makes a pretty cogent case on Reason today that the Founders would have considered first trimester abortions as one of the unenumerated rights of the Ninth Amendment.
Abortion and the Ninth Amendment
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Madison's attempt became enshrined in the Constitution as the Ninth Amendment. Here is what it says: "The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people." In short, unenumerated rights get the same respect as enumerated ones.
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William Blackstone's widely read Commentaries on the Laws of England, first published in 1765, made this exact point: Life "begins in contemplation of law as soon as an infant is able to stir in the mother's womb." Under the common law, Blackstone explained, legal penalties for abortion only occurred "if a woman is quick with child, and by a potion, or otherwise, killeth it in her womb." Blackstone's work was a major influence on America's founding generation. The founders read Blackstone and they well understood that abortion was legal during the early stages of pregnancy under the common law. What is more, because every state at the time of the founding followed the common law as described by Blackstone, no state originally possessed the lawful power to prohibit abortion before quickening. We might call this the original understanding of the regulatory powers of the states.
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 6/24/22 at 3:35 pm to UndercoverBryologist
No he doesn't. 
Posted on 6/24/22 at 3:35 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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UndercoverBryologist
read the opinion (or draft) as it relates to those sources. Alito discusses them
Posted on 6/24/22 at 3:35 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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Damon Root makes a pretty cogent case on Reason today that the Founders would have considered first trimester abortions as one of the unenumerated rights of the Ninth Amendment.
That was a word salad that in no way proved abortion to be a constitutional right. What a stretch
Posted on 6/24/22 at 3:36 pm to LNCHBOX
Ask me any interrogative you've got, Kid. I'll gladly elaborate. Since this is your floor.
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 6/24/22 at 3:36 pm to Sao
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Ask me any interrogate you've got, Kid. I'll gladly elaborate. Since this is your floor.
I don't give a frick about you, which is why we stopped talking about you.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 3:36 pm to Sao
Why in the hell did they release this on a Friday morning rather than Monday? Unless they wanted to give a big FU "you aren't going to intimidate us" to the left. I mean these leftists have now had all afternoon to make their signs, buy their bats, and communicate targets for a weekend full of riots.
This week has been pretty freaking sweat though. Vouchers, Guns, and Abortion. As I wrote elsewhere, the left doesn't need to look far. RBG's legacy is forever stained because instead of letting Barry replace her she refused. She died with a Republican president and it was checkmate.
I'll enjoy tonight's urban entertainment on CNN. I'm sure they'll be "mostly peaceful".
This week has been pretty freaking sweat though. Vouchers, Guns, and Abortion. As I wrote elsewhere, the left doesn't need to look far. RBG's legacy is forever stained because instead of letting Barry replace her she refused. She died with a Republican president and it was checkmate.
I'll enjoy tonight's urban entertainment on CNN. I'm sure they'll be "mostly peaceful".
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 6/24/22 at 3:37 pm to FredBear
Undercover: "It's in there somewhere dammit"
Roe v Wade Court: samesies, we just won't bother stating how.
Casey: samesies, penumbras galore
Roe v Wade Court: samesies, we just won't bother stating how.
Casey: samesies, penumbras galore
Posted on 6/24/22 at 3:37 pm to Centinel
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14th, specifically the EPC. And before you bring up 14th and Roe, read Alito's decision and save everyone some time for where you're wanting to go with this line of thinking.
The correct way to make abortion a legal right across the country is a constitutional amendment, just like the 19th gave women the right to vote nation wide.
Anything else is just skirting the legal system of this country because you don't like the results.
I am not trying to take you anywhere. Not everyone on this board has ulterior motives in a discussion. I am just not on board that every "right" has to be explicitly spelled out in the Constitution.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 3:37 pm to MSUDawg98
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Why in the hell did they release this on a Friday morning rather than Monday? Unless they wanted to give a big FU "you aren't going to intimidate us" to the left. I mean these leftists have now had all afternoon to make their signs, buy their hats, and communicate targets for a weekend full of riots.
Like these losers would have been too busy working to protest early next week
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 6/24/22 at 3:38 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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Under the common law, Blackstone explained, legal penalties for abortion only occurred "if a woman is quick with child, and by a potion, or otherwise, killeth it in her womb."
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The founders read Blackstone and they well understood that abortion was legal during the early stages of pregnancy under the common law.
I assume they read something other than what the article's author quoted to get to that conclusion?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 3:39 pm to FredBear
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That was a word salad that in no way proved abortion to be a constitutional right. What a stretch
With the measure of how the world is today, how about we kill all first born boys. Old testament style. "The Lord's 2nd ammendment" in Exodus.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 3:39 pm to UndercoverBryologist
I think you should read what you quoted again. Slower this time.
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