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re: Roe v Wade officially overturned
Posted on 6/24/22 at 3:59 pm to UndercoverBryologist
Posted on 6/24/22 at 3:59 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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The problem, from your position, is that the Ninth Amendment says enumeration itself doesn’t matte
If you share the first position, then the problem, from your other position position, is this ruling didn't outlaw abortion in America. Which should have always been the case, since there was never really a good basis to give them the right to make it legal at the federal level (which we both agree with at a basic level.)
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:01 pm to Centinel
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Don't you find it rather odd that no actual constitutional legal scholars out there are making this argument?
Liberals and conservatives who want to view our rights through as narrow a scope as possible want to avoid expanding Ninth Amendment protections as much as possible, even if it hinders the arguments they are trying to make? No, doesn’t seem strange to me.
The Ninth Amendment is, in my view, the most important amendment. It’s no wonder that no one with any real power wants to argue its merits.
(Overturning Lochner is a major Constitutional blunder.)
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:01 pm to GRTiger
As much as some of y'all hate black people, shouldn't y'all want black women, and white women that may have black biracial babies, to have abortions?
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:01 pm to Cosmo
it was originally implemented to control the african american population. it was never about women's rights, id have more respect for abortion supporters if they would admit this.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:02 pm to MontyFranklyn
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As much as some of y'all hate black people, shouldn't y'all want black women, and white women have black biracial babies, to have abortions?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:02 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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Liberals and conservatives who want to view our rights through as narrow a scope as possible want to avoid expanding Ninth Amendment protections as much as possible, even if it hinders the arguments they are trying to make? No, doesn’t seem strange to me.
The Ninth Amendment is, in my view, the most important amendment. It’s no wonder that no one with any real power wants to argue its merits.
So now it's some grand uniparty conspiracy?
C'mon man.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:04 pm to Cosmo
What a beautiful, happy day. I am extremely grateful and proud to be a conservative woman.
Thank you Jesus and on the feast of the Sacred Heart of Jesus.
Thank you Jesus and on the feast of the Sacred Heart of Jesus.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:05 pm to MontyFranklyn
They can still have abortions, moron.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:05 pm to MontyFranklyn
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As much as some of y'all hate black people, shouldn't y'all want black women, and white women have black biracial babies, to have abortions?
Somehow you may win for dumbest post in this abortion of a thread
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:06 pm to PassingThrough
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Except that even murder is legal in the case of self defense.
You just can't help yourself
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:07 pm to Cosmo
What you baws gonna do if your side piece gets pregnant?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:08 pm to LNCHBOX
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I see you're just spinning the wheels trying to salvage any kind of win in this thread
Nope, my stance has never changed in this thread- death is a part of life. The morality and legality of the why has always been about stabilizing society. I believe all living things have a form of consciousness and I equate that with a soul. I think we as humans do far crueler things than kill, but we have always killed as well.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:09 pm to PassingThrough
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Nope
Yep.
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my stance has never changed in this thread- death is a part of life. The morality and legality of the why has always been about stabilizing society. I believe all living things have a form of consciousness and I equate that with a soul. I think we as humans do far crueler things than kill, but we have always killed as well.
Word salad. You're saying nothing here.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:09 pm to Centinel
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So now it's some grand uniparty conspiracy?
C'mon man.
It’s not really a conspiracy. It’s spelled out in various opinion. In this particular case (I can’t remember if it was the draft or the published one), Alito states in his opinion that such a wide interpretation of rights opens the door to respecting the contractual rights of sex workers, and Thomas states that the court should revisit other major substantive due process cases respecting rights to contraception.
And then the liberals don’t want to respect contractual rights between employers and workers because it would impede their ability to regulate the economy.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:09 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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The Ninth Amendment is, in my view, the most important amendment.
I think it's the most administrative and clerical.
It's just saying that while certain rights of the people were enumerated for the express purpose of putting into context the limitatiin of the governments power, it should not be assumed that those rights are exhaustive as enuemerared.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:09 pm to lsucoonass
How is letting someone choose to have an abortion a control mechanism?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:11 pm to LNCHBOX
If you hate a certain group of people like a lot of posters here do, seems like to me that they would champion that group having abortions
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