re: Robert E. Lee monument coming down NOW

They lost my business over this.

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If they want to take the whole thing down take the whole thing down.

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you see how the crane they used for Jeff Davis struggled with that?

NO WAY this amateur hour deconstruction crew could work a crane the size needed to move that full pedestal

going to be interesting to see how they handle the height and size of Lee. I assume they're just going to remove the statue and anything with his name on it... the pedestal again will be left standing... looking like an erect penis in the middle of the circle

Virgil Caine is the name, and I served on the Danville train
'Till Stoneman's cavalry came and tore up the tracks again
In the winter of '65, we were hungry, just barely alive
By May the tenth, Richmond had fell, it's a time I remember, oh so well

The night they drove old Dixie down, and the bells were ringing
The night they drove old Dixie down, and the people were singin' they went
La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la

Back with my wife in Tennessee, when one day she called to me
"Virgil, quick, come see, there goes Robert E Lee"
Now I don't mind choppin' wood, and I don't care if the money's no good
Ya take what ya need and ya leave the rest,
But they should never have taken the very best

The night they drove old Dixie down, and the bells were ringing
The night they drove old Dixie down, and the people were singin' they went
La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la,

Like my father before me, I will work the land
Like my brother above me, who took a rebel stand
He was just eighteen, proud and brave, but a Yankee laid him in his grave
I swear by the mud below my feet,
You can't raise a Caine back up when he's in defeat

The night they drove old Dixie down, and the bells were ringing,
The night they drove old Dixie down, and all the people were singin', they went
Na, la, na, la, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na,

No doubt he wants his own monument somewhere. At a minimum, he wants a plaque.

Is the Moon plaque currently being guarded?

They're not removing the pedestal....

It will be left standing like a big middle finger frick YOU from Mitch to the rest of the city

As a last ditch effort contact anyone organization in New Orleans and let them know that you will vote with your wallet over the monument issue. One I've contacted is the New Orleans restaurant association and let them know that I won't step foot in one of their establishments if Lee comes down.

Economic pressure on people who have the mayors ear is the only hope we have at this point.

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Over time the focus shifted, though not wholly, after the Emancipation Proclamation and once Northern soldiers started invading the South and seeing the horrors of slavery, many became abolitionists and this is evident in their letters home

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So let me get this straight. You think the focus of those four states changed after they saw slavery conditions down south. Even though:

1)The Emancipation Proclamation literally did nothing for anyone. It freed no slaves in any part of the Union.

2)Those soldiers came from slave holding states, and many had their own slaves.

3)Those States didn't free their slaves until the 13th amendment. After the end of the civil war.

How can one fight to end slavery when they in fact hold slaves?

Actually you can find papers Lincoln wrote early on talking about it. He stopped talking about it towards the end, but that doesn't change the fact. He offered $50 for any man who took a former slave south to work.

If you want to argue that his position changed towards the end, that's fine. But his position on African Americans wasn't what people today try to make it.

Edit. Even your link says what I said. He wanted it and supported it and talked about it. But his position "changed" towards the end. Was that a true to hart change, or a political move to gain support of blacks who wanted to stay is still debated. And we will never know the true answer.

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I wish there were OSHA inspectors in the New Orleans area who had the balls to shut down these half assed masked demo crews.

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I know a girl who is an inspector for OSHA in NOLA, and she is an airhead who is dumb as a box of rocks.

But, she is a little chunky, but IWHI. She is a cute chick.