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re: Rittenhouse attorneys announced.
Posted on 8/28/20 at 11:02 am to Centinel
Posted on 8/28/20 at 11:02 am to Centinel
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The "crossed state lines" drum that the left is beating for some odd reason is completely irrelevant.
It’s consistent with their gun control trope. Something along the lines of “if he didn’t have a gun, he couldn’t have shot those people”, “if he didn’t come to the protest, he couldn’t have shot those people.” They seem to think that violence against people with whom they disagree is okay and that self defense is a capitalist, white privilege sort of thing that should not be allowed.
If we just take all the guns away, life will be peachy.
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Posted on 8/28/20 at 11:03 am to TBoy
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One primary problem is that he went out on the street with a loaded AR to make some undefined political stand by making a show that he could kill people. That created a charged situation which led to the two shootings.
Ask yourself this. If he had not taken the AR out, would any confrontation have occurred? Of course not. Also consider that he had the look and presentation of a mass shooter. If you are in mass and Rittenhouse walked in looking exactly as he did that night, what would you reasonably assume? Probably that he is there to kill people. You may try to subdue or disarm him to save others.
Therein lies the problem. While Rittenhouse may or may not have intended to kill people, he created a situation of intense danger by what he did.
Now, after he has shot one person in the head, isn't it even more reasonable for the crowd to believe that he is there to mass murder? At that point, wouldn't it be an act of duty to try to subdue him?
No one would be dead and no one would have tried to subdue him if he hadn't gone out at night to present himself as a killer.
Rittenhouse is not a hero. He has his own criminal record. The right wing lunatics are declaring him a hero for shooting people who may have had different political views. That is sick.
Just curious - why are all these predicate acts relevant for this guy, but not relevant for folks who are the subject of 911 calls, have open warrants, resist arrest, don't comply, have extensive records, or any combination thereof?
Posted on 8/28/20 at 11:10 am to TBoy
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Ask yourself this. If he had not taken the AR out, would any confrontation have occurred? Of course not.
Yes, if there's one thing we know for certain, it's that every time you Nazis have attacked someone it has been completely justifiable and a reaction to being provoked......
Posted on 8/28/20 at 11:12 am to Lonnie Utah
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L. Lin Wood
Kid is in great hands.
Posted on 8/28/20 at 11:13 am to TBoy
Didn't he try to retreat and was chased by the peaceful protester
That threw something at him. Looks to me that hole in the head instigated the confrontation.
That threw something at him. Looks to me that hole in the head instigated the confrontation.
Posted on 8/28/20 at 11:13 am to goofball
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Not illegal.
You know what's illegal? Throwing a molotov cocktail at someone. Assaulting them with a skateboard. Pointing a pistol at them and attempting to murder them.
As a 17 year old, illegal.
Posted on 8/28/20 at 11:14 am to TBoy
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One primary problem is that he went out on the street with a loaded AR to make some undefined political stand by making a show that he could kill people.
This never happened.
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Ask yourself this. If he had not taken the AR out, would any confrontation have occurred?
If she had not gone out looking like that, you think the rape would have occurred? This is your logic.
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Also consider that he had the look and presentation of a mass shooter.
More made up bullshite.
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He has his own criminal record.
This is third time this has been said, and yet no one can provide evidence.
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The right wing lunatics are declaring him a hero for shooting people who may have had different political views.
He's a hero for defending himself from violent attack from a mob efficiently and with no collateral damage to anyone else.
Posted on 8/28/20 at 11:14 am to Tortious
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Just curious - why are all these predicate acts relevant for this guy, but not relevant for folks who are the subject of 911 calls, have open warrants, resist arrest, don't comply, have extensive records, or any combination thereof?
That's a good question.
I understand that Rittenhouse also has a record. Is that relevant? but to the point about other lawless people doing lawless things on the street that night, they have no protection from the law. Looting and destroying property are not "protest" activities and are not protected. Those people who do those things should be arrested and prosecuted.
Kyle Rittenhouse is not authorized to arrest, detain or prosecute anyone. If his intent that night was to be a private vigilante, his action was also lawless.
Rittenhouse may be a Travis Bickle wannabe, going out to confront, and maybe kill, people he views as "filth." But when you go out looking for a reason to shoot a deadly weapon, and you find a reason, you are not a hero, and you may not avoid criminal conviction.
Posted on 8/28/20 at 11:15 am to TBoy
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One primary problem is that he went out on the street with a loaded AR to make some undefined political stand by making a show that he could kill people
Exactly the kid is a dumbass who was looking for trouble. Of course the OT is too blind to see the guy is nothing more then a dumbass kid who's lucky he didn't get himself killed
Posted on 8/28/20 at 11:16 am to TBoy
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I understand that Rittenhouse also has a record.
Well let's see it.
Posted on 8/28/20 at 11:17 am to dawgfan24348
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Exactly the kid is a dumbass who was looking for trouble.
Even the NYT mentioned the kid rendered first aid to protesters earlier that day.
Ya, lemme tell ya, he was there looking for trouble all right.
Posted on 8/28/20 at 11:19 am to TBoy
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Ask yourself this. If the convicted felons had not instigated a bodily assault on an armed minor, would any confrontation have occurred?
Posted on 8/28/20 at 11:19 am to Lonnie Utah
I’ll throw my services in pro bono as well because I don’t want to live in America where it’s illegal to kill pedos
Kyle if you’re reading this I can weld some kind of shield for you or cut the cuffs off with a cutting torch!
Kyle if you’re reading this I can weld some kind of shield for you or cut the cuffs off with a cutting torch!
Posted on 8/28/20 at 11:22 am to TBoy
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I understand that Rittenhouse also has a record
Can you link that, because a google search turned up nothing.
Posted on 8/28/20 at 11:22 am to Centinel
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was there looking for trouble all right.
He brought a gun across state lines. There's a reason we have laws against vigilantes.
Posted on 8/28/20 at 11:25 am to dawgfan24348
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He brought a gun across state lines.
Him crossing a state line is completely irrelevant.
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There's a reason we have laws against vigilantes.
This wasn't vigilantism. He wasn't hunting anyone down. He was defending himself from being attacked.
I guess he was supposed to just get the shite kicked out of him instead?
Posted on 8/28/20 at 11:26 am to Lonnie Utah
LOL at the constant “he crossed state lines” nonsense from the left...
But muh borders!!!!
But muh borders!!!!
Posted on 8/28/20 at 11:26 am to cokebottleag
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Can you link that, because a google search turned up nothing.
Because there is nothing. They just heard that from the same place they got their other talking points from.
Posted on 8/28/20 at 11:28 am to dawgfan24348
You are fake news.
LINK
"When you start manufacturing facts to support false accusations, you get into trouble under the law of defamation. Kyle did not carry a gun across state lines. The gun belonged to his friend, a Wisconsin resident. The gun never left the State of Wisconsin.
Truth always prevails."
LINK
"When you start manufacturing facts to support false accusations, you get into trouble under the law of defamation. Kyle did not carry a gun across state lines. The gun belonged to his friend, a Wisconsin resident. The gun never left the State of Wisconsin.
Truth always prevails."
Posted on 8/28/20 at 11:28 am to 3oliv3
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Probably shouldn’t let civil litigation attorneys handle your criminal defense kid.
That's a great idea, Baw. Of course, that is not what is happening here.
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