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re: Riot Watch: N. Charleston shooting trial -- no mistrial
Posted on 12/5/16 at 2:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 12/5/16 at 2:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
I can see it both sides. I thought he was guilty.
He'll likely get retried. This one was bad.
He'll likely get retried. This one was bad.
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 2:58 pm to 50_Tiger
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How can he be re-tried for the same charge? Isn't that Double Jeopardy?
There wasn't a verdict.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 3:06 pm to 5 Deep
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Minutes later, that defendant, Michael T. Slager, the North Charleston police officer who shot and killed Walter L. Scott during a traffic stop and foot pursuit, ended nearly 20 months of silence and told a jury that he had been consumed by “total fear” in the moments before he opened fire on April 4, 2015.
“I see him with a Taser in his hand as I see him spinning around,” Mr. Slager, 35, said as he described the fatal encounter with Mr. Scott, 50. “That’s the only thing I see: that Taser in his hand.”
Scared for his life as he shoots a man running away from 20+ feet...
Posted on 12/5/16 at 3:07 pm to Fun Bunch
He should be charged and put away
Posted on 12/5/16 at 3:15 pm to GetCocky11
Slager did nothing wrong
Was justified
Was justified
Posted on 12/5/16 at 3:19 pm to HubbaBubba
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Oh, I think they all know the difference. You may have one guy who won't budge because he's racist and doesn't want to see a white cop go to jail for killing a black man. White cop will be killed in jail.
Great assumption without knowing all of the facts presented in the case. You should be a lawyer.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 3:24 pm to GetCocky11
Murder.
Put him away for life.
Put him away for life.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 3:24 pm to goldennugget
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Slager did nothing wrong
Was justified
Obey and serve
Posted on 12/5/16 at 3:25 pm to goldennugget
If scott truly had the taser in his hand and truly did shoot the officer with the taser....then I would be inclined to think that the cop was acting in accordance with his own safety.
I read the link you posted and it makes a convincing argument, but I still cannot tell if Scott really did have the taser.
If he did. Cop is not guilty of anything.
If scott did not have the taser.....cop should be in jail for life.
I read the link you posted and it makes a convincing argument, but I still cannot tell if Scott really did have the taser.
If he did. Cop is not guilty of anything.
If scott did not have the taser.....cop should be in jail for life.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 3:30 pm to GetCocky11
At the end of the day the man would still be alive if he didn't run.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 3:37 pm to someLSUdoosh
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If scott truly had the taser in his hand and truly did shoot the officer with the taser....then I would be inclined to think that the cop was acting in accordance with his own safety.
Even if Scott shot him with the Taser or the officer thought Scott was getting away with his Taser, I see no reason to shoot the man once he is leaving. I can understand pulling your weapon during a struggle, but if you go to fire a shot and he's leaving at that point, you're in the wrong, or at least you should be.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 3:40 pm to GetCocky11
The man posed little to no threat...why shoot him in the back?
And he was 10yds away at that...
And he was 10yds away at that...
Posted on 12/5/16 at 3:42 pm to slackster
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but if you go to fire a shot and he's leaving at that point, you're in the wrong, or at least you should be.
It all comes down to this. He was justified to shoot when his brain said "shoot that guy" and he started to draw. You can see in the video he starts to draw while the guy is facing him. For some reason I can't fathom, he never resets his decision when the guy turns to run. It's like he is stuck on that decision and just continues to fire. For that reason, I think a crime occurred.
If he had popped off one round and said "Crap, I shouldn't have fired", I would be sympathetic. But the totality of it is just too much.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 3:45 pm to jbgleason
That's the best reasoning I've heard for what happened.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 3:48 pm to burgeman
Every time I have a clear thought it ends up at the very bottom of the page and no one reads it. 
Posted on 12/5/16 at 4:01 pm to burgeman
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That's the best reasoning I've heard for what happened.
Agreed. I understand his initial decision, but at what point should you stop and gather yourself?
Those who justify it seem to believe if you're justified to pull your weapon, you're justified to shoot until he's dead. I don't see how a rational person can see the video and believe it is acceptable. Whether or not Scott had the Taser OR shot the Taser doesn't change anything for me.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 4:09 pm to slackster
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Those who justify it seem to believe if you're justified to pull your weapon, you're justified to shoot until he's dead.
The ability to make that decision to shoot, the ability to reassess that decision and stop or not act at all are what police are trained for and paid to do. THIS is the essence of why not just anyone can be a law enforcement officer. You have to be willing and able to make those decisions and then explain why you did. This guy made the wrong decision (IMO) and then his explanation largely consists of "I can't remember." That really shouldn't fly in a criminal prosecution.
Of course, that is what every President and Congressman says under oath so I guess he learned from the best.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 4:15 pm to jbgleason
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after shooting the guy the officer went and grabbed the Taser to keep it safe. He drops it near the body where he can keep an eye on it.
That makes sense to you?
Posted on 12/5/16 at 4:18 pm to slackster
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Agreed. I understand his initial decision, but at what point should you stop and gather yourself?
Shooting someone while they're fleeing, to me, is an anger response, not a defensive one. Not to say those two couldn't align at the point he began the draw, but the continuation just doesn't seem like the response of someone who actively felt under threat. It seems like the response of someone in an intense situation who was outraged at Scott's non-compliance and couldn't regain his composure in time.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 4:20 pm to little billy
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That makes sense to you?
Yes actually. I wouldn't leave it laying across the lot from me where someone could pick it up. I also wouldn't put a piece of evidence back in my holster. The taser got treated the same as if the guy had a gun. I would want it secured where I could protect it but I wouldn't want it on me.
TO BE CLEAR, saying that it makes sense to me isn't the same as saying I think it is a great idea. I just can see where he was going when he said that. Of course, he can't remember anything but remembers that. That is an issue for me.
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