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Posted on 1/8/26 at 3:33 am to Shexter
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"I'm very disappointed in the new pyramid that features red meat and saturated fat sources at the very top, as if that's something to prioritize. It does go against decades and decades of evidence and research," says Christopher Gardner, a nutrition expert at Stanford University.
What a fricking idiot.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 6:01 am to Shexter
I like how all the lefties suddenly became, "Government should be an advisory tool at best, so you should just follow your own advice and doctor's advice with research" conservative-libertarians after this and the vaccine-moderation scheduling dropped.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 6:29 am to Shexter
So when are we going to stop paying for people on food stamps to eat processed junk foods and sodas? We pay for this crap and then pay for the medical costs of obesity.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 6:34 am to Shexter
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As an introduction to the new guidelines, Kennedy and Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins called for a "dramatic reduction" in the consumption of "highly processed foods laden with refined carbohydrates, added sugars, excess sodium, unhealthy fats, and chemical additives."
Look at photos or videos of people in a crowd during the 50’s thru 70’s and there are very few truly obese people.
Something changed, butter has been studied and proven healthier than margarine, high fructose corn syrup and processed food to extend shelf life and sweetness is a killer. Among other things.
I overheard an elderly black lady tell her grandson in Rouses who was holding and begging for high sugar cereal, “we don’t eat anything out of a box.”
Made me think of how wise this lady was instilling good food consumption habits. My guess is a good home cook. Nothing beats starting with fresh ingredients.
The new guidelines are fine, moderation is the key along with regular weekly exercise that you enjoy.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 6:40 am to N2cars
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Cancer isn't a lifestyle choice, typically, while obesity is.
You’re not wrong. That said, obesity increases cancer risk.
From OpenEvidence:
Excess body weight is conclusively associated with an increased risk of developing 13 types of cancer according to the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC).[1][2][3] In 2019, an estimated 5% of cancer cases in males and 11% in females were attributable to excess body weight.[1]
The 13 cancers with sufficient evidence for a causal association with obesity include: endometrial cancer (uterine corpus), esophageal adenocarcinoma, liver cancer, gastric cardia cancer, kidney cancer (renal cell), meningioma, multiple myeloma, pancreatic cancer, colorectal cancer, gallbladder cancer, ovarian cancer, postmenopausal breast cancer, and thyroid cancer.[1][4][2][3] Additionally, excess body weight may also increase the risk of cancers of the mouth, pharynx, larynx, non-Hodgkin lymphoma (diffuse large B-cell lymphoma), male breast cancer, and fatal prostate cancer.[1][5]
The magnitude of risk varies substantially by cancer type. For each 5 kg/m² increase in BMI, the risk increase ranges from 9% for rectal cancer in men to 56% for biliary tract system cancer.[6] Endometrial cancer shows particularly strong associations, with relative risks of approximately 7.1 for class 3 obesity compared to normal BMI.[2] Among those with BMI =40, mortality from all causes of cancer was 52% higher in men and 62% higher in women compared to those with normal BMI.[7]
The mechanisms linking obesity to cancer include chronic inflammation, altered adipokine secretion (elevated leptin, reduced adiponectin), insulin resistance, oxidative stress, immune dysregulation, and gut microbiome alterations.[8][9] The proportion of cancer cases attributable to excess body weight varies by cancer type—for example, 53% of endometrial cancer cases versus 4% of ovarian cancer cases.[1] Importantly, even modest sustained weight loss can reduce breast cancer risk among postmenopausal women not using hormone replacement therapy.[1]
Posted on 1/8/26 at 6:52 am to Shexter
Now just think how thin the populace would be if they had to provide their own top layer of that pyramid.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 6:55 am to cwil177
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So when are we going to stop paying for people on food stamps to eat processed junk foods and sodas?
I’m pretty sure next month in Louisiana.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 6:59 am to Shexter
I think the pyramid is fine. Unprocessed meat and fruits and vegetables (fresh, frozen, canned) are good for you. Refined carbs like sugar and white flour are not that good for you. Whole grains are great. I think the only mistake is to deemphasize whole grains and nuts.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 7:29 am to cwil177
And despite these facts we still aren't seeing "exponential" rising cancer rates.
Imagine if we could get obesity under control?
The takeaway is that as we've identified harmful behaviors that can cause cancer, people have changed their habits.
Just like smoking, people can decide not to overeat.
Imagine if we could get obesity under control?
The takeaway is that as we've identified harmful behaviors that can cause cancer, people have changed their habits.
Just like smoking, people can decide not to overeat.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 8:48 am to N2cars
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And despite these facts we still aren't seeing "exponential" rising cancer rates.
There was almost no cancer like 100 years ago.
Now, I’m sure that was some just undiagnosed and of course cancer did exist. But denying cancer rates have increased since this huge food industrial complex started roughly 60 years or so ago is fricking crazy
Posted on 1/8/26 at 9:11 am to Shexter
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It does go against decades and decades of evidence and research," says Christopher Gardner, a nutrition expert at Stanford University.
I'm sure a Stanford nutritionist knows more than me, however, is there any topic where the "evidence" is as hotly debated & changes as frequently as nutrition & exercise science??
Posted on 1/8/26 at 9:24 am to cwil177
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So when are we going to stop paying for people on food stamps to eat processed junk foods and sodas? We pay for this crap and then pay for the medical costs of obesity.
This new food pyramid is likely paving the way for food stamp reform and possibly school lunch reform.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 9:25 am to Bigdawgb
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I'm sure a Stanford nutritionist knows more than me,
I’m not
Posted on 1/8/26 at 9:28 am to Shexter
That's what I mostly eat.
No way this guy can convince me a processed vegan patty is healthier than some fresh red meat.
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"I'm very disappointed in the new pyramid that features red meat and saturated fat sources at the very top, as if that's something to prioritize. It does go against decades and decades of evidence and research," says Christopher Gardner, a nutrition expert at Stanford University. He was a member of the Dietary Guidelines Advisory Committee, which reviewed all the nutrition evidence.
No way this guy can convince me a processed vegan patty is healthier than some fresh red meat.
This post was edited on 1/8/26 at 9:32 am
Posted on 1/8/26 at 9:31 am to Kodar
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Eating healthier is great and all, but eating too much of a healthy thing will still lead to unhealthy weight gain, even if it is reduced.
There is no one here who is going to get fat off eating chicken breast and broccoli. Your body gets full of it faster as the flavor isn't as chemically enhanced, so you automatically want to eat less.
Have you ever tried or thought about eating a 3 lbs bag of apples at one sitting?
I agree with you, but I think overall this shouldn't be an issue with real food
Posted on 1/8/26 at 9:33 am to Bigdawgb
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I'm sure a Stanford nutritionist knows more than me
2 things:
1. Reagan said it best about liberals not being ignorant, but knowing a lot about what isn't so.
2. The lowest form of evidence-based practice is "expert opinion" because it's biased and relies much on a fixed mindset that has a superiority complex.
Anyone who resists change because they staunchly believe research that is debatable or poorly done and they resist because "that's the way we've always done it" when the results have led to a literal epidemic of obesity and poor health/disease does NOT know more than you unless you're talking about what he believes.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 10:41 am to Mingo Was His NameO
I use facts, not feelings, when I form opinions.
But carry on.
But carry on.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 10:46 am to Shexter
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But the implication is, don’t have it for breakfast.
Tell the networks to stop scheduling college football games at 11am then.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 11:18 am to boxcarbarney
or maybe be like my grandmother and her sisters who all lived into their late 80's and 90's. she loved ice cream, meat, (usually fried), whole milk (sweet milk to her), eggs, desserts, fresh veggies. basic rural staples.
always thin.
eat whatever you want just don't eat so dadgum much of it.
always thin.
eat whatever you want just don't eat so dadgum much of it.
This post was edited on 1/8/26 at 11:19 am
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