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re: Residents of Charleston's 2nd tallest building forced to evacuate over structural concerns

Posted on 6/11/25 at 3:43 pm to
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 3:43 pm to
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A number of places in there on the market for $145k to $550k
plus a $1MM HOA fee
Posted by Black n Gold
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 3:45 pm to
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But all owners would have to agree to the sale.


I wonder how many votes it would take to repair the building. Likely to be a stalemate and will result in a vacant building for some time.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 4:04 pm to
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I wonder how many votes it would take to repair the building. Likely to be a stalemate and will result in a vacant building for some time.


All owners are currently paying their primary mortgages as well as paying for their secondary/current housing so I would think there's some motivation to get it figured out more quickly. Will be curious to see what a developer would buy it for considering they'd then have to put in the money to fix it or pay a ton to have it demolished.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 4:19 pm to
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One of the units in this building just went under contract for $350k. Sold for $850k in May 2023.


He didn't lose half million, he saved himself $1.5 million
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 4:25 pm to
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Each owner's share of the bill is based on their ownership percentage of the building, which varies condo to condo. A larger apartment might bear more than 1 percent share, meaning that owner would pay more than $1.5 million for the repairs.


Those previously-posted $350k offers seem great now
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 4:29 pm to
How in the hell are the homeowners responsible for the repairs and not the original developer/owner of the building? Seems like they were sold a condo that is no longer structurally safe, which should fall on the owner of the building, no?
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 4:38 pm to
Do you realize how expensive it is for them?

Read the movers are charging an arm and leg to go into the building, 15-20K just to get their belongings out.

Still paying a grand monthly to the HOA plus $160 per parking spot, plus two mortgages.


Did HOA not have an insurance policy that would cover some of this?
Posted by Lou Loomis
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 10:31 pm to
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There are some contractors and architects insurance carriers that are puckering up right about now.


Seriously doubt it. It was built in 1974. There isn’t a soul around who had anything to do with the original construction. Even if there were, you can’t go back 50 years and start pointing fingers anyway. And let’s pretend you can…any large company that built that building would have had sufficient insurance for any boo boos. And that’s even assuming their insurance carrier they had at the time still exists. Which it probably doesn’t. So nobody is puckering. It’s a non starter but even if they tried, it would be like chasing ghosts.
Posted by AlextheBodacious
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 10:52 pm to
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This building is a damned eyesore and I'm not sure how it ever got approved to be built

Don’t you live in a large eyesore of a building that’s built on what used to be a marsh and now Hagood floods every high tide?
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 2:50 am to
My parents had a condo years ago that had some building/ structural issues that forced a lawsuit of the construction group.
Was a PITA requiring the condo owners to pony up fees for attorneys, etc just to get the place up to code.
Definitely gonna be way worse for this Charleston place
Posted by jscrims
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 5:44 am to
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I am guessing their homeowners will cover if they lose the building.


If the cause of loss is poor construction, homeowners will not cover the loss unless construction defects are covered.

The construction company who build the building is on the hook or at least their insurance company is.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 6:48 am to
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The construction company who build the building is on the hook or at least their insurance company is.
highly unlikely
how old is this building?
Posted by joemuggs
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 4:19 pm to
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quote:
It looks like the design came from a architectural design bureau in 1960s Soviet Union.
That’s brutal….



I see what you did there
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 4:55 pm to
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Seems like they were sold a condo that is no longer structurally safe, which should fall on the owner of the building, no?


I'm would assume the condo association is the owner of the building and the individual unit owners have their little piece within it (studs in).
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 4:58 pm to
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Don’t you live in a large eyesore of a building that’s built on what used to be a marsh


It's not an ugly building and I don't believe it used to be marsh, though I do have a great view of the marsh and park and river from my balcony

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and now Hagood floods every high tide?


Not every high tide but every king tide it does. The new pumping station just up the road on Lockwood should help big time with that once it comes online.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 5:02 pm to
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how old is this building?


47 years.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 5:05 pm to
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47 years

the idea that there is any liability (not saying it’s your idea) on the part of the original designers or builder is ludicrous. The building is nearing the end of its useful life as far as the industry is concerned

this is the risk you run by buying a condo
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 5:12 pm to
Sucks for the townhome owners around the base of the building. Their townhomes (which are also ugly) do not have the structural issues but are considered part of the development and they were also forced out. I think in part because they would be in danger should the tower come down.

You can see them in the lower part of this picture.

This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 5:21 pm
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 5:23 pm to
as you noted in an earlier post, each of the HOA members would be entitled to a share of the land sale price should everyone agree to sell. If you have a mortgage you’re SOL but if you don’t you could possibly do pretty well on that considering the prime real estate.

fricked up situation unless the HOA insurer pays for the repairs with just a reasonable backcharge to the owners
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 5:41 pm to
Curious what kind of lowball offer would come in though, considering whoever buys it has to deal with that 20 story monstrosity sitting on the land.
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