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re: Reports of over 20 young camp girls missing In TX floods
Posted on 7/8/25 at 4:01 pm to Jim Rockford
Posted on 7/8/25 at 4:01 pm to Jim Rockford
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A Coastie will get real world missions from the get go.
And those missions are to help their fellow citizens on what is possibly the worst days of their lives. That's direct and tangible impact in situations that carry the weight of innocent trauma. The job they do is important, and their value isn't always recognized.
This post was edited on 7/8/25 at 4:02 pm
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 4:05 pm to jlc05
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Abbott said there is an additional 161 that have been reported missing…and the number may grow
That's awful. Just keeps getting worse
Posted on 7/8/25 at 4:42 pm to Dawgsontop34
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Comparing the two situations is so incredibly disingenuous
Not to mention. The 10 campers that died in 1987 were in a bus that tried to outrun the flash flood and crossed an impassable road.
This camp was also further downriver with more warning time.
Even then we had the “turn around, don’t drown” slogans.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 4:52 pm to Ostrich
Posted on 7/8/25 at 6:43 pm to Oates Mustache
Seems as of this morning 6 girls missing, and 1 counselor
Posted on 7/8/25 at 6:44 pm to CitizenK
Turns out that the home is on the Blanco River which did not flood anywhere close to this.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 7:28 pm to jlc05
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additional 161
July 4th holiday and those RV parks along the river were full.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 7:54 pm to Tridentds
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NWS can predict flash floods all they want as far in advance as the can... this had nothing to do with them because there is no way they could have predicted water to get that high that quickly. Only now we know it is possible.
One possible outcome is the have a higher tier warning than "flash flood". I imagine many people are like me and when I hear flash flood I think of low water crossings being covered and inaccessible. I do not think of a flash river tsunami about to wipe out everything in minutes.
I would bet the local officials probably had the same thoughts. If they knew what was going to hit I have no doubt they would have been aggressive in getting word out to get people off the river bottom.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 8:11 pm to fwtex
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One possible outcome is the have a higher tier warning than "flash flood". I imagine many people are like me and when I hear flash flood I think of low water crossings being covered and inaccessible. I do not think of a flash river tsunami about to wipe out everything in minutes.
They did. They issued a flash flood warning that included threat to life at 1am
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This post was edited on 7/8/25 at 8:40 pm
Posted on 7/8/25 at 8:23 pm to CapitalTiger
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issued a flash flood emergency at 1am
In an area where cell phone coverage is minimal at best.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 8:23 pm to CapitalTiger
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They issued a flash flood emergency at 1am
The emergency was issued at 4:03am I believe.
Warnings were issued at 1am, and used language that considered the flooding potentially life-threatening.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 8:39 pm to Dawgsontop34
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The emergency was issued at 4:03am I believe.
Stand corrected. I got the 1am warning with the life-threatening language confused with the emergency alert.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 8:49 pm to CapitalTiger
You’re all good. I know there’s been all sorts of info about it so it’s tough to keep up.
Not sure how much it would have mattered since the counselors keep their phones locked in the office anyways during camp.
Maybe the Eastlands or the security guard would have started evacuations a little earlier, but hard to know for sure.
Not sure how much it would have mattered since the counselors keep their phones locked in the office anyways during camp.
Maybe the Eastlands or the security guard would have started evacuations a little earlier, but hard to know for sure.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 9:09 pm to Dawgsontop34
This is a good breakdown of the meteorology behind the flooding.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 9:13 pm to Dawgsontop34
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The emergency was issued at 4:03am I believe. Warnings were issued at 1am, and used language that considered the flooding potentially life-threatening.
There was an interview with a survivor from down the river (not a camp person) who said they received the alerts but ignored it because they always receive alerts.
Alert fatigue is real - not sure what the answer is but a change in the entire alert system (not just weather related) is needed.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 9:15 pm to LegendInMyMind
And this is a good geological breakdown of the landscape and why/how it is so flood-prone.
This post was edited on 7/8/25 at 9:25 pm
Posted on 7/8/25 at 9:16 pm to LazloHollyfeld
quote:Yeah it's really easy to fall into the boy who Called wolf syndrome but then governments or the agencies that release these alerts are always erring on the side of caution But that creates a nonchalant attitude in the citizenry
Alert fatigue is real - not sure what the answer is but a change in the entire alert system (not just weather related) is needed.
but I can guarantee you for at least the next year or so that part of Texas will take the alerts seriously
human nature being what it is
Posted on 7/8/25 at 9:30 pm to OWLFAN86
Any new updates today gents? Saw they were over 110+ deceased and growing. Estimated to be over 200.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 9:42 pm to idlewatcher
I've had four friends of friends have received the news that the bodies have been found all under 12 years of age
It's not the news that anyone wants to hear
I hope it's the beginning of some sort of peace for the families
It still irritates me that there were people here posting as if it were a fact that no more bodies would be found
or that there had been rescues when there had not been any
or that missing people had been found
false hope,, destroys hope
It's not the news that anyone wants to hear
I hope it's the beginning of some sort of peace for the families
It still irritates me that there were people here posting as if it were a fact that no more bodies would be found
or that there had been rescues when there had not been any
or that missing people had been found
false hope,, destroys hope
Posted on 7/8/25 at 9:45 pm to Dawgsontop34
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Maybe the Eastlands or the security guard would have started evacuations a little earlier, but hard to know for sure.
I honestly don’t think it would have mattered. It appears that they got all the cabins that were in area impacted by the ‘87 flood evacuated. Then the water kept rising.
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