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re: Reports coming in that the US just killed Iranian General Qasem Soleimani
Posted on 1/3/20 at 9:25 am to slackster
Posted on 1/3/20 at 9:25 am to slackster
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It's comical that you think this is a precedent in the first place.
Can you point me to another incident where the White House ordered a military strike against a military leader of a country we haven't declared war on?
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 9:31 am to The Spleen
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a military leader of a country we haven't declared war on
That's a disingenuous way to frame it.
He's a terrorist, plain and simple.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 9:32 am to slackster
Didn't we blast a US citizen somewhere in that area?
Posted on 1/3/20 at 9:34 am to The Spleen
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Can you point me to another incident where the White House ordered a military strike against a military leader of a country we haven't declared war on?
We do this to terrorists constantly. He was a terrorist and the architect of Iransproxy wars.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 9:36 am to The Spleen
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Can you point me to another incident where the White House ordered a military strike against a military leader of a country we haven't declared war on?
I'm sure the list is pretty long, Gaddafi comes right off the top of my head
Posted on 1/3/20 at 9:39 am to RogerTheShrubber
I would kill 10,000 Iranian generals to bring back 1 American who died on 911.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 9:48 am to The Spleen
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Can you point me to another incident where the White House ordered a military strike against a military leader of a country we haven't declared war on?
Soleimani was meeting with a known terrorist that was responsible for having just attacked our embassy. Optics wise, Iran don’t have much of a leg to stand on to get anyone on their side.
Additionally, I’ve seen comments on reddit *taken with a grain of salt* that Iranian leaders viewed Soleimani as a political threat to some degree, so while they’ll use his killing as a rally cry against the US, they probably also aren’t too too upset. Soleimani seemed to be a figure similar to Egypt’s el-Sisi...a popular military general that could rally enough support for a coup if he wanted.
War can’t be ruled out completely, but most I think we see out of this is more of the same from Iran. They’ll probably cause trouble in Hormuz and continue their proxy battles.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 9:49 am to 777Tiger
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Gaddafi comes right off the top of my head
Gaddafi was killed by a rebel milita group in their civil war. The rebels did have some NATO help in advancing in the region, but the US didn't order a strike against him and kill him.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 9:53 am to The Spleen
Pretty sure he was referencing 1986.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 9:58 am to Jester
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I guess you also probably think all Zoroastrians hate us.
ESPECIALLY the Zoroastrians.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 9:58 am to The Spleen
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Gaddafi was killed by a rebel milita group in their civil war. T
we did an airstrike with a few Aardvarks in '86ish
Posted on 1/3/20 at 9:59 am to FunroePete
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If that Quds guy is dead, they just opened up the biggest shitshow of the 2000s
you don't think 9/11 did that?
Posted on 1/3/20 at 9:59 am to The Spleen
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Can you point me to another incident where the White House ordered a military strike against a military leader of a country we haven't declared war on?
Yemen.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 10:00 am to Sun God
22! Ready to serve I guess!!
Posted on 1/3/20 at 10:07 am to The Spleen
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we should instead focus on taking that power away from the President. Acts of war should always go through Congress, not the White House.
So you are not a fan of timely responses I see. Can you imagine how facked we would be if every response or decision had to go through congress? Nothing would ever happen in a timely manner. That's a bad idea.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 10:08 am to The Spleen
“We came, we saw, he died.”
-Hillary Clinton
-Hillary Clinton
Posted on 1/3/20 at 10:08 am to The Spleen
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Can you point me to another incident where the White House ordered a military strike against a military leader of a country we haven't declared war on?
The US hasn't declared war since the 1940s, so everyone since then
Posted on 1/3/20 at 10:17 am to The Spleen
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Can you point me to another incident where the White House ordered a military strike against a military leader of a country we haven't declared war on?
WTF do you think we did in Iraq in March of 2003?
Posted on 1/3/20 at 10:21 am to nes2010
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Pretty sure he was referencing 1986.
Duh. And I even had a cousin that flew on that mission.
Still there was debate on whether Gadaffi was the ultimate target in that mission. Seems they mostly targeted their air defense systems in retaliation. But this was Reagan, so I'll concede my error and say he was the target and they only missed him because the Italian guy tipped him off to the attack.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 10:23 am to The Spleen
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Can you point me to another incident where the White House ordered a military strike against a military leader of a country we haven't declared war on?
shite... my buddy did a couple years in federal prison, down in miami, with none other than Manuel Noriega.
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