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Real life "top gun" pilot shot four Soviet jets in 1952, story classified for 50 years
Posted on 1/21/23 at 7:40 am
Posted on 1/21/23 at 7:40 am
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Posted on 1/21/23 at 7:42 am to GeneralLee
Don’t you mean “the enemy”?
ETA: holy crap this was actually in the article
ETA: holy crap this was actually in the article
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In 1953, Williams was awarded a Silver Star, but the citation made no reference to Soviet aircraft, just “enemy” ones.
This post was edited on 1/21/23 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 1/21/23 at 7:49 am to GeneralLee
What a bad arse. Glad he survived (and excelled) and got a chance to spend a long life with people he loved.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 7:54 am to GeneralLee
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Following the battle, Williams was personally interviewed by several high-ranking Navy admirals, the Secretary of Defense, and also the President, after which he was instructed to not talk about his engagement as officials feared the incident might cause a devastating increase of tensions between the US and Soviet Union, and possibly ignite World War Three,”
His heroics went all the way to the top, then they quickly put a lid on it.
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A US Defense Department account of the incident also notes that US forces were trying out new communications intercept equipment that day. It was feared that revealing the Soviet role in the combat would have compromised that US’ advantage.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 8:13 am to GeneralLee
Great story.
They just pushed his F9F off the side of the carrier when he got back
They just pushed his F9F off the side of the carrier when he got back
Posted on 1/21/23 at 8:13 am to GeneralLee
"Badass.... but can he ride a dirt bike off a mountain cliff with a parachute?"
Arrogantly yours,
Tom Cruise
Arrogantly yours,
Tom Cruise
Posted on 1/21/23 at 8:34 am to GeneralLee
I just read this story in one of the aviation magazines.
Hard to believe a straight-wing F9F could wax four MiG-15s
Hard to believe a straight-wing F9F could wax four MiG-15s
Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:20 am to GeneralLee
In a F9F no less against four MiG-15’s. 1v4 is bad enough, but the F9F was severely outclassed as the Navy had deck limitations and was less focused on air-to-air. There is an interview with him on YouTube. That guy had ice in his veins.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:22 am to GeneralLee
Some more pro Western propaganda smh
Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:25 am to TwoFace
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dirt bike off a mountain with a prarachute
That's childs play.....that was how he got considered to be a naval aviator.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:44 am to GeneralLee
Russia cucks (who ironically also hate communism) won’t know how to handle this
Posted on 1/21/23 at 10:10 am to lowspark12
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They just pushed his F9F off the side of the carrier when he got back
That made me wonder something b/c I'm retarded about this kinda stuff.
His landing was incredibly dangerous for himself and the deck crew. Does someone make a decision for the pilot whether he should eject from the plane near the carrier or attempt a landing?
I was just wondering about their "risk/decision matrix" for these sorts of problems. I'm sure they have protocol for bringing in pilots if their plane is unable to land safely.
Just curious if anyone knows how that decision goes down.
This post was edited on 1/21/23 at 10:11 am
Posted on 1/21/23 at 10:29 am to mikelbr
You just wanted to picture him soaking wet in a flight suit
Posted on 1/21/23 at 10:32 am to GeneralLee
"pacemakers" another squadron that long ago went away
Posted on 1/21/23 at 10:56 am to mikelbr
I'm sure recovery of a pilot at sea was a lot more difficult back then. Let's be honest, in the 50s the military didn't have as much invested in its aircraft and personnel, today with the price of a fighter jet and the training of a pilot, recovery of both is a high priority.
Great story thanks for sharing OP. Now I need to rinse off the Commie stench from CNN.
Great story thanks for sharing OP. Now I need to rinse off the Commie stench from CNN.
This post was edited on 1/21/23 at 10:57 am
Posted on 1/21/23 at 11:25 am to GeneralLee
What a warmonger
/Poliboard
/Poliboard
Posted on 1/21/23 at 11:39 am to FightinTigersDammit
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Hard to believe a straight-wing F9F could wax four MiG-15s
that era of Korea/Vietnam fighter pilots were some badass mofos, balls of absolute steel, after the Vietnam war and the "teens" fighters were emerging it was common place to see a 1v4 F-4v.F-14/15/16 with some old Vietnam vet with combat experience in the Phantom just absolutely school the young whippersnappers in the Tomcats, Eagles and Vipers, now once they changed tactics to fight like the new jets were designed to fight, the field began to level a bit
This post was edited on 1/21/23 at 11:44 am
Posted on 1/21/23 at 12:30 pm to 777Tiger
Yeah, but this guy had a huge speed disadvantage. If he tries to run, the MiGs can take turns making gun runs on him. I assume they weren't stupid enough to try to turn with him.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 12:39 pm to 777Tiger
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old Vietnam vet with combat experience in the Phantom just absolutely school the young whippersnappers in the Tomcats
They were schooling the Tomcat jocks in A-4 Skyhawks at Top Gun because as you said, they knew combat tactics and they knew every advantage that little plane had and used it against the inexperience of the fighter guys. That part of the movie was not exaggerated.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 12:42 pm to GeneralLee
Cute. But the Ghost of Kiev almost killed the entire Russian army.
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