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re: re: Southwest airline fatality, did her death save others?

Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:50 am to
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
30079 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:50 am to
No the shrapnel from the engine exploding came through the window and hit her in the head/neck area.

She did not plug the hole because the woman was skinny and the only thing holding her in the airplane was the passengers who were holding her by her legs as she was dangling out of the plane window by her knees.

They also quickly dragged her back into the plane and the window was wide open for several minutes well over 20k feet.

Hope she booked her flight with an American Express card so the insurance kicked in for her family. Southwest will definitely wind up paying out $6 to 15 million to her family for this fiasco.
Posted by MBclass83
Member since Oct 2010
10393 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:58 am to
I'll pass on the patio seating.
Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
4793 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:08 am to
that's what the oxygen masks are for.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19467 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:12 am to
earth's flat, no such thing as depressurization
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
76781 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:19 am to
Got on a plane yesterday and this was the view out of my window. Before the Southwest thing I wouldn't have even noticed.

Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19467 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:21 am to
quote:

Before the Southwest thing I wouldn't have even noticed.


Noticed what? that planes have engines?
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
76781 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:28 am to
no, that it was right outside of my window.
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
6626 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:29 am to
Why didnt they flex seal that shite
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41685 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:31 am to
quote:

I'm guilty of unbuckling my seat belt when the pilot gives permission to do so. But I now understand the importance of keeping it buckled and why it is more than just a suggestion.


I imagine a lot more people - especially on a window seat - will be keeping it buckled.

Of course... I'm also a fatty so maybe it would be harder for me to be sucked out.
Posted by Clint Torres
Member since Oct 2011
2853 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:31 am to
saw this on a pilot forum:

"That pretty much is a 100% fatal event. When this happens you are sucked out through a window in about half a second that you normally could not force yourself out of even if you tried very hard. So it is breaking shoulders, clavicles, arms and probably some ribs and maybe even her neck just doing that. Now the top half of her body is suddenly in 500 mph wind. The force on this of a body stuck there is almost impossible to imagine. The wind has enough force to tear exposed skin. Her arms would suddenly flail so hard the would be shattered in several places. It is almost certain her neck would have been broken. Eye lids could be torn and her jaw dislocated just form the force of the wind. Not to mention the air doing all that is about -30F degrees and can freeze her skin in seconds. I am sure that just to get her back in took a few people pulling on her like hell."

Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
76781 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:34 am to
well.... that doesn't sound like fun at all.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33653 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:38 am to
If you look at the fuselage to the rear of the affected window, you'll get an idea it was over quickly and not a pretty sight.

Heartbreaking
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
63251 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:40 am to
quote:

earth's flat


Nope.

If it were, cats would already have pushed everything over the edge.

Since they have not, clearly the earth must be round.

Cats are real jerks.

Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
90304 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:42 am to
quote:

Coward, Lucas, and Bergersen were exposed to the effects of explosive decompression and died in the positions indicated by the diagram. Subsequent investigation by forensic pathologists determined that Hellevik, being exposed to the highest pressure gradient and in the process of moving to secure the inner door, was forced through the 60 centimetres (24 in) diameter opening created by the jammed interior trunk door by escaping air and violently dismembered, including bisection of his thoracoabdominal cavity, which further resulted in expulsion of all of the internal organs of his chest and abdomen, except the trachea and a section of small intestine, and of the thoracic spine. These were projected some distance, one section later being found 10 metres (30 ft) vertically above the exterior pressure door.[6]


LINK

OH
MY
GOD
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:55 am to
quote:

I'm betting the blood was from her body being forced through the window.


I’m betting that it was from the shrapnel that hit her in the face and killed her. How much are we betting?
Posted by flyingtexastiger
Southlake, TX
Member since Oct 2005
1790 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:21 am to
Barely 24 hours old and it's "this fiasco"?? A part whose mean time between failures is likely in the millions of hours broke and caused a one in several million fatal accident and it's all of a sudden a fiasco??
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:27 am to
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Thats scary.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:31 am to
quote:

Coward, Lucas, and Bergersen were exposed to the effects of explosive decompression and died in the positions indicated by the diagram. Subsequent investigation by forensic pathologists determined that Hellevik, being exposed to the highest pressure gradient and in the process of moving to secure the inner door, was forced through the 60 centimetres (24 in) diameter opening created by the jammed interior trunk door by escaping air and violently dismembered, including bisection of his thoracoabdominal cavity, which further resulted in expulsion of all of the internal organs of his chest and abdomen, except the trachea and a section of small intestine, and of the thoracic spine. These were projected some distance, one section later being found 10 metres (30 ft) vertically above the exterior pressure door.[6]


PVT, damn you scary.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:34 am to
quote:


Thats scary.


Yeah, I can't imagine how terrified those people were.

quote:

It was a milk run, a routine bit of island hopping. The Aloha Airlines jet was cruising at 24,000 ft., just 25 miles southeast of the Hawaiian island of Maui, en route from Hilo to Honolulu. Everything seemed normal aboard Flight 243 last Thursday afternoon when suddenly -- with a whoosh like a paper bag popping -- a gaping hole blew open in the fuselage directly above the first- class compartment. "Everything was flying around -- books, papers, money," said Stanford Samson, a passenger seated nearby. "A stewardess was in the aisle being pulled toward the hole.

quote:

Sixty-one of the 90 passengers aboard Flight 243 were treated for injuries, mostly bruises and cuts from the debris and the rippling winds. But there was one fatality: Flight Attendant Clarabelle Lansing, who had flown with the airline for 37 years. Lansing, one of two attendants near the first-class compartment when the roof blew open, was apparently sucked out of the Aloha jet by the escaping air.


LINK



And keep in mind this plane was at 24,000 feet when it started falling apart.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
42504 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:39 am to
quote:

OH
MY
GOD



Yeah I read all that. Could you imagine cleaning all of that up?

There are pictures of his remains btw.
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 11:41 am
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