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re: Southwest airline fatality, did her death save others?
Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:23 am
Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:23 am
I was wondering, she had to get sucked out at cruise, with one engine out and a probable descent, so nearly 500ph, maybe more. They are over 30,000 and anything over 14k is hard for us to breathe. Then you have the pressure.
So what I am getting at, is, did she act as a plug to prevent further loss of life, cabin failure due to depressurization? You'd have to think with someone stuck in the window, it plugged the vacuum. At the expense of the life of that person. Though it's just possible she saved others with her life.
So what I am getting at, is, did she act as a plug to prevent further loss of life, cabin failure due to depressurization? You'd have to think with someone stuck in the window, it plugged the vacuum. At the expense of the life of that person. Though it's just possible she saved others with her life.
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:24 am to Napoleon
no
Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:24 am to Napoleon
who fricking knows
Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:24 am to Napoleon
You have a lot of time on your hands - but these are good questions
Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:25 am to Napoleon
quote:
So what I am getting at, is, did she act as a plug to prevent further loss of life
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did she act as a plug
Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:25 am to Napoleon
The pilots descended quickly. Assuming people got oxygen masks on probably would have been ok
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 8:26 am
Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:26 am to Napoleon
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They are over 30,000 and anything over 14k is hard for us to breathe.
That’s what the oxygen masks are for.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:27 am to Napoleon
Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:28 am to Napoleon
I saw an interview with one of the guys who pulled her back in. Apparently one of the guys put his back against the open window while the plane descended (which seems like a ballsy move imo)
The entire situation kind of freaks me out. I'm also a bit surprised more ppl were not hurt on this flight.
The entire situation kind of freaks me out. I'm also a bit surprised more ppl were not hurt on this flight.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:29 am to Napoleon
What an awful tragedy.
On one hand, you have to commend the pilot and co-pilot along with the entire crew and passengers for remaining calm and getting everyone else to safety.
But to think about that poor lady and the experience she suffered, all you can hope and pray for it that she didn't endure any kind of pain and it happened so quickly that she didn't realize what was going on. You have to feel for her family and friends. A lady minding her own business on the plane and just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time so to speak. I'm sure her family and friends are left pondering, "why her?"
Some things are just unexplainable in terms of the "why." Sure, there will be scrutiny, blame and fault placed on the "why" the part failed but that doesn't necessarily give closure to her family and "why" she was impacted the most.
I'm guilty of unbuckling my seat belt when the pilot gives permission to do so. But I now understand the importance of keeping it buckled and why it is more than just a suggestion.
All one can do is pray for her and her family and friends and hope she is in a better place today than she was yesterday.
On one hand, you have to commend the pilot and co-pilot along with the entire crew and passengers for remaining calm and getting everyone else to safety.
But to think about that poor lady and the experience she suffered, all you can hope and pray for it that she didn't endure any kind of pain and it happened so quickly that she didn't realize what was going on. You have to feel for her family and friends. A lady minding her own business on the plane and just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time so to speak. I'm sure her family and friends are left pondering, "why her?"
Some things are just unexplainable in terms of the "why." Sure, there will be scrutiny, blame and fault placed on the "why" the part failed but that doesn't necessarily give closure to her family and "why" she was impacted the most.
I'm guilty of unbuckling my seat belt when the pilot gives permission to do so. But I now understand the importance of keeping it buckled and why it is more than just a suggestion.
All one can do is pray for her and her family and friends and hope she is in a better place today than she was yesterday.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:30 am to Napoleon
Look up “choked flow” in a nozzle and it will help you better understand this.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:32 am to Will Cover
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But to think about that poor lady and the experience she suffered, all you can hope and pray for it that she didn't endure any kind of pain and it happened so quickly that she didn't realize what was going on.
heard on the radio this morning that she died from result of impact
so it was likely very quick....probably didn't even know what hit her
Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:34 am to Napoleon
I'm ignorant here as I only glanced at a few of the headlines when this happened and haven't read more....but I thought the 1 fatality was a lady that was hit with damaged equipment? I thought the lady that got sucked into the window was pulled back to safety by other passengers, did the lady going into the window die?
Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:36 am to WG_Dawg
I bet whatever broke the window from the engine killed her. I read there was lots of blood.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:36 am to WG_Dawg
quote:The lady in the window died.
I'm ignorant here as I only glanced at a few of the headlines when this happened and haven't read more....but I thought the 1 fatality was a lady that was hit with damaged equipment? I thought the lady that got sucked into the window was pulled back to safety by other passengers, did the lady going into the window die?
Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:37 am to Nado Jenkins83
quote:It apparently took three men to pull her back inside the cabin.
I bet whatever broke the window from the engine killed her. I read there was lots of blood.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:39 am to Will Cover
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Some things are just unexplainable in terms of the "why." Sure, there will be scrutiny, blame and fault placed on the "why" the part failed but that doesn't necessarily give closure to her family and "why" she was impacted the most.
I understand your sentiment, this unfortunate accident gets a lot more press because of the spectacular nature in which it occurred, but the frequency of this type of occurrence, given the millions and millions of passenger miles flown and hours of engine operation is still extremely low, when I lived in FL, some kind of oddball accident would happen on 95 weekly, if not more often, chunks of metal falling off of trucks and impaling people in vehicles behind them and the like, flying is still about as safe a way to travel as any, but it still behooves people to pay attention to the safety briefings and follow instructions of crew members
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 8:41 am
Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:42 am to JBeam
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The entire situation kind of freaks me out.
Aloha Airlines 243 freaked me out for a long time. Stress fatigue from many compression/decompressions.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:49 am to Napoleon
Airplane windows arent that big. I get what will happen when decompression happens, big things will definitely go through small holes. I'm betting the blood was from her body being forced through the window.
Reminds me of this story. Which is just fricking absurd.
Byford-Dolphin Explosive Decompression
Reminds me of this story. Which is just fricking absurd.
Byford-Dolphin Explosive Decompression
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Coward, Lucas, and Bergersen were exposed to the effects of explosive decompression and died in the positions indicated by the diagram. Subsequent investigation by forensic pathologists determined that Hellevik, being exposed to the highest pressure gradient and in the process of moving to secure the inner door, was forced through the 60 centimetres (24 in) diameteropening created by the jammed interior trunk door by escaping air
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 8:49 am
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