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re: Random thought after watching the movie Oppenheimer

Posted on 10/6/24 at 8:24 pm to
Posted by Espritdescorps
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Posted on 10/6/24 at 8:24 pm to
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Singers, actors, athletes are who we tell kids to look up to


Yeah being a doctor used to be the pinnacle of career achievement.. now’s it’s being an influencer .. we deserve whatever befalls us
Posted by SEC. 593
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Posted on 10/6/24 at 9:33 pm to
Other than Einstein no of the people listed were widely known in their time.
Posted by tedwilliamsfroznhead
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Posted on 10/6/24 at 9:55 pm to
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Put Hawking’s brain in Ted Williams’ head…he’ll be the smartest jock ever.


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RummelTiger


GFY
Posted by FreddieMac
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Posted on 10/6/24 at 10:07 pm to
None of those scientist have influenced our world as much as Alan Turing.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
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Posted on 10/7/24 at 12:47 am to
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It was not. However, it was theorized back in the 60s and the scientists who did so were basing it off the earlier work of Paul Dirac, Hideki Yukawa, Richard Feynman, and other physicists from the 20s, 30s, and 40s.



Who based their work on earlier scientists and so on and so forth. I'm not sure your point
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 10/7/24 at 3:14 am to
Posted by AUstar
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Posted on 10/7/24 at 7:05 am to
I would say the main advance in physics has been in astronomy and cosmology. It wasn't until 1998 that it was proved that the universe's expansion is accelerating. That was a pretty big deal. Around the same time it was proved that there are planets in other solar systems (believe it or not, as late as the 90s many astronomers were skeptical that there were other planets out there).

And in cosmology, we now have the mysteries of dark matter and dark energy. (Keep in mind, we have no idea of either really exist).

On the theoretical side of physics, there have been no major advances. Einstein discovered relativity in 1905 and quantum theory was fully fleshed out before WWII. Since then physicists have studied how they can merge the two into one framework (like they did with electricity and magnetism back in the day).
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 10/7/24 at 7:46 am to
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Oppenheimer really just piggybacked on Einstein


Oppenheimer was more of a jack of all trades but master of none kind of scientist, which made him perfect to lead the Manhattan Project. Someone with a baseline understanding of everything to bring it all together from scientists who knew a bit more than he did on certain fields.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 10/7/24 at 7:52 am to
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I doubt very seriously men like Oppenheimer, Teller, Bohr, and the rest would have become as well known as they did.


I still think we would have eventually desired to get nuclear energy. Oppenheimer also discovered the Black Hole, so while it was a relatively insignificant discovery in his lifetime, it has much larger significance to the future of our species.
Posted by Old Character
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Posted on 10/7/24 at 9:15 am to
Well, science been settled since Obama ‘s first term so we really didn’t need them anymore.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
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Posted on 10/7/24 at 10:47 am to
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Where are all the geniuses that are making advancements? The first group of guys made some incredible ground breaking discoveries. Everything seems to have stagnated other than smaller electronics and computer science.

If that list of guys was still alive today and making advancements you'd have half the members of this board saying whatever they claimed was bullshite and they trust the guy that is saying what they wanna hear.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 10/7/24 at 11:50 am to
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During that era you had the following physicists:

Robert Oppenheimer
Edward Teller
Albert Einstein
Max Planck
Werner Heisenberg
Niels Bohr
Richard Feynman
Enrico Fermi
Erwin Schrödinger

Contrast that with who we have today:

Stephen Hawking
The black science guy Neil degrasse Tyson (half joking)


There are some amazing scientists today, but Dark Matter Searches or Neutrinoless double beta decay isn't as engaging for the general public as the Manhattan Project.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 10/7/24 at 11:51 am to
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Hawking and Tyson are DEI hires.



Since Hawking has been dead for 6 years or so...that would be the ultimate DEI hire I guess.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 10/7/24 at 11:55 am to
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Musk is a rare exception and it’s only because he owns a media company and is the richest man in the world.

And half the population now intensely hates Musk since they found out he’s not a leftist and won’t censor in the direction they want.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 10/7/24 at 11:56 am to
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Musk has a degree in physics (though I don't think he's actively doing physics research).


I've never understood schools that will award a B.A. in Physics, rather than a B.S.
Posted by John McClane
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Posted on 10/13/24 at 12:50 am to
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SantaFe


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I did engineering work on a neutrino detector at Los Alamos.


checks out (potentially)
Posted by John McClane
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Posted on 10/13/24 at 12:54 am to
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All of the major advances in Physics that CAN be discovered, have been. We’re tinkering at the edges of whats left.


We still don’t know what an atom actually looks like. We don’t know shite.
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