re: Quiet Quitting? Well that a new term.

I am the remote general manager of Maid Service based in another state. We start new employees at $19 an hour during training, and if they make it out of training they get paid 22-27 an hour depending on experience and time with the company. Some of our long-term cleaners make 48,000-50,000 a year. I have the most problems with people in the 21-24 age group. I recently had one demand a "better position" on her first day, took a 2-hour lunch, failed to go to a scheduled home, and spent the next day harassing me over her termination via text message. She was angry when I fired her when she arrived at her third home. ( with 2 trainers). She felt I did not give her a chance to prove herself, and she thought she deserved her two-hour lunch break. Another one,( not hired) told me during the interview process, that she felt she deserved at least $900 a week-- to start. Her last job was working as a cashier at a bowling alley for minimum wage. If anything, I feel the labor "shortage" ( not enough kids were born in the boomer, and gen x generation) is making these people entitled- or maybe it was the participation trophies. Whatever the case may be, I totally get the tree service on Pecue Lane that had the NO snowflakes sign outside of their business for years.

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Do you pay the bare minimum?

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doesn't matter slacker. u accepted the job. No matter how much you make, you'll always think you're not paid enough

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Classic.

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I'm the only one here who has ever miss-typed. You got me!

sigh grow up

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Truth is most middle management people are the true lazy asses. They kissed enough arse to worm in to a position where they didn't have to do real work and are content to ride out their careers there.

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This thread has a little bit of everything. Lower level employees "quiet quit" and there are endless justifications. now the people who did better work and got promoted are lazy brown nosers.

I feel like 99% of the shite in here is personal sour grapes with absolutely no true experience to back it up.

LOL @ this thread on the OT, a place likely most active among disengaged "quiet quitters" who spend time on here while at work.

and for a good reason... most jobs kind of suck and employers ultimately are accountable to profitability before your well-being.

We need to stop attaching so much personal meaning and identity into work.

There's no shame in simply showing up, fulfilling your transactional relationship as "labor", and expecting your employer to fulfill their obligations.

There's also no shame in getting the most out of your abilities, growing in your career, and being in the fortunate minority who generally enjoy and excel at their job.

Where things go off the rails -- regardless of whether you're in camp A or B -- is if your self worth is all wrapped up in work.

Just getting by at work? Great! Accept the reality. Be grateful for the benefits and go live a full life outside of work.

Kicking arse at work? That's great too! Accept that nobody really cares. Ensure you're running on intrinsic motivators, and go live a full life outside of work.


After a generation of millenials being sold and perpetuating unhealthy ideas about work:

you can do anything

follow your passion

find meaningful work

not colleagues, but family

It's no wonder that a large chunk have grown disillusioned, as reality hasn't met expectations. It's particularly difficult if your peers and managers are still hyping these attitudes as the only truth.

Gen Z is looking at the unhealthy attachment to work that generations above have had and in response are saying naw, screw that. I get it. They don't want to get burned.

In some ways, the pendulum is swinging back to more pragmatic schools of thought -- work is work, nothing more. But they differ from Boomers and Gen-X in the way that they grew up in a world of endless possibilities and curated content at their fingertips. A job should be personalized for them with lots of individual attn. Compared to older Millenials, they grew up in an era of low institutional trust, anxiety, and uncertainty so they're less likely to be deluded by over-attachment to work if it's not serving their overall well-being, and need to have a sense of security (Climate Change! Inflation! Pandemics! Oh My!).

Add all of this to growing labor movements inside and outside of this country and great insight into how other country's operate, and it's no wonder that young people aren't geared up for work in the same way as other generations.

All things considered, I think it's a necessary swing of the pendulum. Hopefully it results in healthier attitudes about the role of work and more labor-friendly practices rather than a generation of apathetic burnouts.

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now the people who did better work

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Right

i cant stop laughing. its just so funny

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And you could afford a car in college. Holy shite

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somehow responsible for your curtailed lifestyle.

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you are

Pull yourself up by your bootstraps