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Question Re: looting of cell phones

Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:23 am
Posted by Tigear
Scotland
Member since Sep 2019
823 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:23 am
The news footage of dozens of cell phones stores being looted has me curious as I've purchased a few cell phones in my life by now...

Will the cell phones that have been looted at these location even work/accept cell service activation without proof of purchase or activation by a person from the store? Aren't these phones coded & scanned into a system locking in their location & pre-activation status then scanned again upon legal purchase + need for activation? Isn't that something that these really smart phone engineers have in place to prevent the "value" of stealing their expensive/high profit yielding phones...?

Or am I giving far too much credit to the system?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79892 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:24 am to
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giving far too much credit to the system?
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59355 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:25 am to
You think screen repairs is what keeps those sketchy cell phone stores in business?
This post was edited on 6/2/20 at 11:26 am
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38535 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:25 am to
I'm pretty certain the stores can easily brick these phones, but I'm no expert.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
66817 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:25 am to
I would hope so
Posted by USEyourCURDS
Member since Apr 2016
12983 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:29 am to
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stores can easily brick these phones


Easy there, ANTIFA
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19543 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:32 am to
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I'm pretty certain the stores can easily brick these phones, but I'm no expert.


If they have the IMEI and serial numbers for every phone in their store they probably can, but even that would be an absolute pain in the arse to go through

They'll probably just submit an insurance claim and call it a day
Posted by jatilen
Member since May 2020
13608 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:32 am to
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I'm pretty certain the stores can easily brick these phones, but I'm no expert.


Yes, the carriers can blacklist the devices.
This post was edited on 6/2/20 at 11:32 am
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43552 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:33 am to
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Yes, the carriers can blacklist the devices.


Ding Ding.

iOS activation requires IMEI and device SN last time I checked. Need to look it up again.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:36 am to
Yes, they're actually locked when they're shipped to the stores and aren't unlocked until purchase.


What will likely happen is they'll sell them on the secondary market, and the purchaser won't be able to activate it. I'd imagine as well there are folks that have figured out how to unlock them.
Posted by Lithium
Member since Dec 2004
64393 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:46 am to
They can track the phones

LINK
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59355 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:50 am to
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They can track the phones



I would love to know who is going to spend months tracking down every single iPhone stolen in the last week. I would also be pissed at the waste of resources if that was actually a realistic possibility.

It's a scare tactic, Apple doesn't give a shite about a few thousand stolen phones. Most will be sold to those foreign owned hood cell phone stores, sold again to be shipped overseas to be refurbished, then sold again on the internet
This post was edited on 6/2/20 at 11:53 am
Posted by Indiangensing
Member since Nov 2017
2511 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:52 am to
Theft, robbery, vandalism and rioting shall be prosecuted.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59355 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:53 am to
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Theft, robbery, vandalism and rioting shall be prosecuted.



in a perfect world, yes
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
26366 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:56 am to
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If they have the IMEI and serial numbers for every phone in their store they probably can, but even that would be an absolute pain in the arse to go through

They'll probably just submit an insurance claim and call it a day
I would think they'd blacklist the phones and still file an insurance claim. If they don't blacklist the phones, all those thieves won't need to actually buy a new phone for a long time.
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
15342 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 11:59 am to
You mean like the AT&T store on Madison Avenue in New York that was wiped out last night?

I bet they can batch in the inventory into the system and shut them all down in one procedure.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
20425 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 12:02 pm to
Or maybe the government wants those phones activated so they can listen in on ANTIFA? Hmmmm.... Q thread time.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43552 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 12:02 pm to
Looks like Apple went away from the SN as well. Just Activation Lock which has a work around from Apple and 3rd party.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59355 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 12:23 pm to
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I bet they can batch in the inventory into the system and shut them all down in one procedure.



cmon bruh, you think there isn't ways around this by now?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
88049 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 12:47 pm to
Should we avoid Swappa for a while?
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