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Question for you civil engineers. Does the levee system make coastal erosion worse?
Posted on 5/3/21 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 5/3/21 at 2:19 pm
I always thought the levee system actually worsened coastal erosion but protected now residential areas against flooding. So the Mississippi River would flood tons of areas it can't anymore (sans weather catastrophes) and that would carry mud and silt through those areas and offset erosion of the coast.
But now with the levees the river just continues basically along the same path and doesn't flood when nature would normally intend it to. So the coast keeps eroding and no natural event is placing the earth back.
The OT's favorite representative (Mandy Landry) was claiming on twitter last month that the levee system exists to prevent coastal erosion. I try to listen in on what she's talking about as she is my representative in state congress.
My initial inclination is she is exactly wrong and the levee system actually exacerbates coastal erosion rather than prevents it. It's primary purpose is to prevent flooding.
But now with the levees the river just continues basically along the same path and doesn't flood when nature would normally intend it to. So the coast keeps eroding and no natural event is placing the earth back.
The OT's favorite representative (Mandy Landry) was claiming on twitter last month that the levee system exists to prevent coastal erosion. I try to listen in on what she's talking about as she is my representative in state congress.
My initial inclination is she is exactly wrong and the levee system actually exacerbates coastal erosion rather than prevents it. It's primary purpose is to prevent flooding.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 2:20 pm to jlovel7
Yes. But keeps water out of neighborhoods.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 2:20 pm to jlovel7
I'm sure they will consult their chart and get back to you.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 2:21 pm to Splackavellie
I don't know. Let's have another 40 million dollar survey to check.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 2:22 pm to jlovel7
There are a number of factors, but yes, the levee system certainly adds to coastal erosion.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 2:23 pm to jlovel7
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The OT's favorite representative (Mandy Landry) was claiming on twitter last month that the levee system exists to prevent coastal erosion.
Well she’s a fricking moron
Posted on 5/3/21 at 2:23 pm to jlovel7
It was built after the 1927 flood almost washed away everyone along the Mississippi. It’s done a great job of keeping cities dry. It was never built to save the coast.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 2:23 pm to jlovel7
It has definitely accelerated erosion. The levees prevent the depositing of sediment in the marshes which has lead to subsidence of the land. As the land subsides, saltwater invades and kills off the plants that help prevent erosion.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 2:24 pm to jlovel7
Of course it does. It's also basically the only thing that keeps much of the state habitable as we know it and/or ever made it habitable/commercially viable to begin with. It's one of many types of tradeoffs society has always made.
This is nonsense, of course:
This is nonsense, of course:
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The OT's favorite representative (Mandy Landry) was claiming on twitter last month that the levee system exists to prevent coastal erosion. I try to listen in on what she's talking about as she is my representative in state congress.
This post was edited on 5/3/21 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 5/3/21 at 2:25 pm to jlovel7
Far and away the biggest cause of it.
The detailed information you desire can be found on the OB. Has been discussed at length.
The detailed information you desire can be found on the OB. Has been discussed at length.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 2:26 pm to jlovel7
Depends on which side of the levee you’re on
But are you talking about the river levee or a hurricane levee like around Lafourche?
But are you talking about the river levee or a hurricane levee like around Lafourche?
This post was edited on 5/3/21 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 5/3/21 at 2:26 pm to jlovel7
Yes. That’s pretty well known by everyone. That’s why they’re planning on cutting a couple of spots in the levee south of New Orleans to let the river flow into those spots again.
Well she’s a dumbass. But everyone already knew that.
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The OT's favorite representative (Mandy Landry) was claiming on twitter last month that the levee system exists to prevent coastal erosion. I try to listen in on what she's talking about as she is my representative in state congress.
Well she’s a dumbass. But everyone already knew that.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 2:30 pm to jlovel7
Look at a satellite map and study the area between the mouth of the MS and the Atchafalaya... west of the atchafalaya and erosion isn’t much of a problem
Posted on 5/3/21 at 2:31 pm to jlovel7
Mandy Landry
With a name like that, was she ever a stripper?
With a name like that, was she ever a stripper?
Posted on 5/3/21 at 2:32 pm to bayoudude
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Look at a satellite map and study the area between the mouth of the MS and the Atchafalaya... west of the atchafalaya and erosion isn’t much of a problem
Dat Atchafalaya is building coast
Not exactly an apples to apples comparison though. The land is different in the western part of the state. You’ve got solid ground and beaches.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 2:45 pm to The Boat
How the cheniers were built is interesting as hell. Did a paper on it in grad school
Posted on 5/3/21 at 3:04 pm to jimbeam
When the river switches will it benefit South of Houma or will that sediment be carried West?
Damn that talk app doesn't work worth shite.
Damn that talk app doesn't work worth shite.
This post was edited on 5/3/21 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 5/3/21 at 3:06 pm to jlovel7
Irresponsible state legislators need to stay in their lane. If you examine the geological history of SE Louisiana you will quickly discover that the channel for the Mississippi River moves its position in SE La once every couple thousand years. Terrebonne Parish was once the mouth of the river. At one time Old Metarie Road was the natural levee of the river. St. Bernard parish was once the mouth of the river. Before the levees were built the river would flood in the spring and add sediment to the land next to the river,thus building up the land each year. Now the river is confined by the levees and cannot over top its' banks. Also it cannot change course as it did in the past. These sediments that built up SE La. are unconsolidated alluvial sediments, in other words they are not compacted, have air voids in them and over time they compact and sink. This is why New Orleans is constantly getting lower in elevation each year. The marshes are not eroding in the grand sense, they are really sinking because that soil type is compacting and not being replenished from the Mississippi River.
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