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Posted on 11/5/14 at 1:08 pm to CE Tiger
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Engineer 1-3 then to Senior Engineer. none of these positions require a PE license. So no one is required to stamp anything since the risk is assumed with the company not the individuals
Lock all the motherfrickers up
Posted on 11/5/14 at 1:09 pm to CE Tiger
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Engineer 1-3 then to Senior Engineer. none of these positions require a PE license. So no one is required to stamp anything since the risk is assumed with the company not the individuals
someone is stamping it.
my company is quite the opposite. If your title has Engineer in it, you must have an active PE lic.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 1:10 pm to jamboybarry
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Lock all the motherfrickers up
what should happen to at least 1/3 of all contractors.....and I'm not talking about a job title
This post was edited on 11/5/14 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 11/5/14 at 1:11 pm to CharlesLSU
This is the most ignorant thread I have ever read. Someone that has an Engineering Degree is butt hurt over a person's company labeling them as a PE and all this guy keeps going on about is how that peraon can't use the term.
Regatding the actual OP's post, I am a Construction Manager in the Cellular Communications (Cellphone Towers) Industry. I have functioned on projects as a Project Manager as well as an Implementation Manager. From what I have seen in my industry PMs make about 20-30% more than us CMs. Granted each industry is different. Most people in my industry actually have their PMP certification. I have thought about getting mine. However I have 0 years of college in any field. I just happen to have 17 years experience in the tower industry and 7 of those happen to be as a CM. I am just now contemplating getting a degree, but more from a want rather than a necessity since the company I work for does 100% tuition reimbursement.
And in regards to moving up, I have had a PM slot offered to me twice. I prefer to work from home as I do along with the fluid schedule I am allowed. Therefore I have chosen a CM role both times.
If I may make a suggestion, check into the Communications/Tower Industry. And CharlesLSU, do is all a favor, reach back into your asscrack and pull that speedo wad out before you have a stroke over a PE designation.
Regatding the actual OP's post, I am a Construction Manager in the Cellular Communications (Cellphone Towers) Industry. I have functioned on projects as a Project Manager as well as an Implementation Manager. From what I have seen in my industry PMs make about 20-30% more than us CMs. Granted each industry is different. Most people in my industry actually have their PMP certification. I have thought about getting mine. However I have 0 years of college in any field. I just happen to have 17 years experience in the tower industry and 7 of those happen to be as a CM. I am just now contemplating getting a degree, but more from a want rather than a necessity since the company I work for does 100% tuition reimbursement.
And in regards to moving up, I have had a PM slot offered to me twice. I prefer to work from home as I do along with the fluid schedule I am allowed. Therefore I have chosen a CM role both times.
If I may make a suggestion, check into the Communications/Tower Industry. And CharlesLSU, do is all a favor, reach back into your asscrack and pull that speedo wad out before you have a stroke over a PE designation.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 1:14 pm to CharlesLSU
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what should happen to at least 1/3 of all contractors.....
Posted on 11/5/14 at 1:18 pm to warr09
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If I may make a suggestion, check into the Communications/Tower Industry. And CharlesLSU, do is all a favor, reach back into your asscrack and pull that speedo wad out before you have a stroke over a PE designation.
Your post is golden on so many levels......
Posted on 11/5/14 at 1:22 pm to unotiger21
What does an average Civil Engineer make with a PE license at a small to medium size firm?
Posted on 11/5/14 at 1:25 pm to PrettyLights
$70-$75k
ETA: small firm $60-65.....average engineers would indicate zero sales skills and very little client interaction.
ETA: small firm $60-65.....average engineers would indicate zero sales skills and very little client interaction.
This post was edited on 11/5/14 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 11/5/14 at 1:27 pm to CharlesLSU
how many employees would a company have for you classify it as a small sized firm? what about a medium sized firm?
Posted on 11/5/14 at 1:31 pm to unotiger21
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Posted by unotiger21 Guys, once and for all, most big construction companies offer people just starting a position titled " Project Engineer". You are the promoted to assistant project manager then project manager and so on. Just like if you were to go on the field side of things. You would start as a "Field Engineer" then assistant superintendent then superintendent. The terms " Project Engineer" and "Field Engineer" are just the names of the position that most companies use. We have no control over what companies call our position.
What most of you engineers have never done is drive a nail, pop a line, place concrete, stand steel, hang Sheetrock, lay tile, install chilled water and so on, which really hurts many projects because you have no idea how this all comes together and how long it takes.
And if you actually want me to look at your weekly updated schedule you need to start attaching porn to it. Otherwise it goes with the Nigerian princes email.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 1:37 pm to Martini
Are you a superintendent? I take it you've had problems with project managers before.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 1:39 pm to CharlesLSU
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$70-$75k ETA: small firm $60-65.....average engineers would indicate zero sales skills and very little client interaction.
How much experience you talking?
Posted on 11/5/14 at 1:42 pm to CharlesLSU
relax bro, I'm a PE and yeah your right to a degree, but it doesn't really matter. They're not portraying themselves to be professional engineers. It's just an overused word now that we have to accept.
you don't see M.D.s freaking out about social workers with PHDs being called doctors
you don't see M.D.s freaking out about social workers with PHDs being called doctors
Posted on 11/5/14 at 1:46 pm to CharlesLSU
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While I do respect CM grads, you don't deserve to affiliate yourself with the engineering term because you didn't follow a course load anywhere close to what the CEs do.
Preach
Posted on 11/5/14 at 1:48 pm to C
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project engineer
Not really a design engineering position
Plenty of people are in that position without having an engineering degree
I'm doing it now and making ~130. Should be moving on to the project manager position after this project wraps up.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 1:49 pm to unotiger21
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A few friends and I will be graduating in construction management this December. We all have offers in the 50-60 thousand range.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot. Who the hell is paying $60K for a kid out of college?
In all seriousness, I'm a CM alum. I'm telling you, you need to go somewhere and learn the ropes. Learn how to build, learn how to interact with subs and jobsite personnel. You don't want to go to work for somebody thats going to promise you you'll be running work within 2 years. I got thrown to the wolves and ended up running work almost straight out of college that I can look back on now and promise you I had no business doing. It wasn't good for me and caused an incredible amount of stress on my personal life.
Just saying, really, be careful about titles. Find a company you can learn and grow with. You'll be better served in your career by having a good foundation.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 1:52 pm to elprez00
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Whiskey Tango Foxtrot. Who the hell is paying $60K for a kid out of college?
I got that in Dallas several years ago. Don't know much about the BR market right now, but must be booming to pay that. We start guys in the DC area around there now
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In all seriousness, I'm a CM alum. I'm telling you, you need to go somewhere and learn the ropes. Learn how to build, learn how to interact with subs and jobsite personnel. You don't want to go to work for somebody thats going to promise you you'll be running work within 2 years. I got thrown to the wolves and ended up running work almost straight out of college that I can look back on now and promise you I had no business doing. It wasn't good for me and caused an incredible amount of stress on my personal life. Just saying, really, be careful about titles. Find a company you can learn and grow with. You'll be better served in your career by having a good foundation.
Best advice yet
Posted on 11/5/14 at 1:54 pm to Martini
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And if you actually want me to look at your weekly updated schedule you need to start attaching porn to it.
Oh you're one of those.
Because coordination of work between the trades weekly is so stupid. I mean, why would anyone need to know what the other guys are doing? It'll get done when it gets done, right? And letting a trade know to focus manpower on certain areas so it can benefit the schedule, I mean why do that? So what if you have to rip sheetrock down? And asking folks how long its going to take to say, frame a wall, and then actually expecting them to frame it in that amount of time is just wrong, right?
Posted on 11/5/14 at 1:57 pm to jamboybarry
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So what you're saying, is that the majority of commercial construction contractors don't use the title of engineer for entry level employees?
Guys, its semantics. Jesus.
I got hired out of college as a "Project Engineer". I was not doing any "Engineering". Its just a term very common in construction companies that means "educated gopher." Don't get your panties in a wad, damn.
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