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re: Question for Project Managers
Posted on 11/5/14 at 2:49 pm to unotiger21
Posted on 11/5/14 at 2:49 pm to unotiger21
If I had it to do over again I wouldn't. Run! Run while you can. It is a lot of work and there is hardly ever time to have a life of your own.
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 2:51 pm to bayoubengal225
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It is a lot of work and there is hardly ever time to have a life of your own.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 2:52 pm to Martini
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What most of you engineers have never done is drive a nail, pop a line, place concrete, stand steel, hang Sheetrock, lay tile, install chilled water and so on, which really hurts many projects because you have no idea how this all comes together and how long it takes.
False. Greenhorn Field Engineer straight out of LSU and I've done all of that and more.
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And if you actually want me to look at your weekly updated schedule you need to start attaching porn to it. Otherwise it goes with the Nigerian princes email.
I don't decide the schedule, your super does. I just make the f%*ker because the super who came up through the field barely knows how to read his own email let alone build anything in P6. Plus, the schedule isn't for you, it's for the client, their lawyers, and our lawyers in case the field guys can't get the job done on time and we need to go into mediation. That way, no one can say that they weren't notified.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 2:52 pm to bayoubengal225
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If I had it to do over again I wouldn't. Run! Run while you can. It is a lot of work and there is hardly ever time to have a life of your own.
Sounds like you should have gone into BD
Posted on 11/5/14 at 2:52 pm to TexasTiger01
I wish bro, it is what it is. I work for an industrial construction company and there are a lot of hours, traveling, weekend work, etc. We are at the mercy of the client and the industry demands. If you have a better, less stressful way to make six figures though, please let me know.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 2:53 pm to jamboybarry
Nah, don't like people.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 2:56 pm to elprez00
No, I'm graduating in CM this December not civil. I understand there's more money to be made in Texas and had a 60k offer but didn't take it, my buddy did take his from the same company though. I'll be at 50k here in BR, but have a feeling one day I'll end up in houston.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 2:57 pm to Martini
Posted on 11/5/14 at 2:58 pm to bayoubengal225
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I wish bro, it is what it is. I work for an industrial construction company and there are a lot of hours, traveling, weekend work, etc. We are at the mercy of the client and the industry demands. If you have a better, less stressful way to make six figures though, please let me know.
I feel your pain, been there earlier in my career, never traveled over 100 miles though, refused to..... Well, I did move to Texas
Best move I ever made though. With the right company and the right team, you can make well into 6 figures working 35 hours a week a few miles from home, just gotta make it happen. And that can be done without a bachelor's degree or a PMP.... 
Posted on 11/5/14 at 2:58 pm to unotiger21
quote:lol
We will all be in baton rouge.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 2:59 pm to unotiger21
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but have a feeling one day I'll end up in houston.
It's the place to be man. You can't spit without hitting a tower crane over here.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 3:00 pm to Martini
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I know some very good PM guys and work very well with them. I also know a lot of dumbasses who really don't know what they are doing and that hurts all of the contractors on the site. And costs us all money.
That's because we live in a muh safer world now with much stricter requirements from the state, OSHA, and lawyers. We have all kinds of reporting responsibilities and lawyers to deal with CONSTANTLY. You have to have PM's to deal with the massive amounts of paper created by all of the notification requirements. Paper is expensive, safety is expensive, warding off ambulance chasers is expensive. You can't do the work with 5 coonasses in a pickup truck with shovels anymore. For multi-million dollar jobs, you need capable overhead.
Are there a lot of dumbasses? Sure, but there's just as many in the field that created the kinds of issues in safety and liability that created the need for those "dumbass" PM's you so despise.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 3:02 pm to MSH
Yeah that's where my internship was this summer. I loved it out there.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 3:06 pm to kingbob
You sure know a lot for a green horn. I'm certain I know you.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 3:12 pm to bayoubengal225
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If I had it to do over again I wouldn't. Run! Run while you can. It is a lot of work and there is hardly ever time to have a life of your own.
Getting into this late.
I work with Program and Project Managers in our company daily. The Program Managers all work 50-60 hour weeks. Some of PMs do as well.
We do construction, demolition and environmental work, mostly for government agencies.
Having a PE is very important for govt. work. It takes a few years to go from Technical Support to Project Superintendent, a few more to PM on smaller scale projects, a few more to large programs and a few more to Program Manager.
Engineers are engineers. Professional Engineers are professional engineers. Cost estimators aren't any kind of 'engineer.' Nor are schedulers (unless they have an engineering degree.)
I personally wouldn't consider anybody as a PM unless they have had several years on-site experience.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 3:14 pm to unotiger21
Who'd you intern with, general or specialty contractor?
Posted on 11/5/14 at 3:15 pm to MSH
General
Posted on 11/5/14 at 3:15 pm to bayoubengal225
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wish bro, it is what it is. I work for an industrial construction company and there are a lot of hours, traveling, weekend work, etc. We are at the mercy of the client and the industry demands. If you have a better, less stressful way to make six figures though, please let me know.
Meh, it's a roller coaster. I go for weeks to a maybe a few months at a time stressed to hell and then it will be chilled out for months at a time. Just depends on the project. For the most part though my stress is from worrying and not from the amount of work I have to physically do myself. I'm just the one who has to sit across the table from the client and answer all of their questions(which are mostly stupid). I often have projects that require me to work 6-7 days a week but on the weekends i generally just show my face for a bit then get to whatever ball game or event we have going on that weekend.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 3:16 pm to unotiger21
Good deal.
We could have used you in Houston. Too many fricking Aggies in the construction industry.
We could have used you in Houston. Too many fricking Aggies in the construction industry.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 3:17 pm to unotiger21
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Posted by Message unotiger21 Question for Project Managers General
What firm?
So let me ask why project management? Why not an estimator?
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