re: Question for non gun owners

I grew up with shotguns around. My dad taught my brother and I how to shot. We used to hunt.

Now I do not have the urge to get a gun for safety. I do have my dad's single shot 20 gauge at the house. (lol..no shells..I plan to point and yell bang)

i do recall on instance of walking thru the palmetto at Bayou Cocdrie NWR while carrying a .17 HMR. jumped a 300#+ hog, and felt a little nervous about my chances.

headed to Glacier NP in a couple of weeks. Bringing a fresh can of bear spray out there, no guns.

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Do you go into tests without studying?

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No...because when I went into a test I knew there wass a 100% certainty I was going to take a test.

Preparation there is warranted, right?

Likewise, if I knew with 100% certainty that I was going to be in some life threatening position, then I'd be warranted in being armed.

What we're talking about is a sliding scale of risk. For whatever reason, you guys are suggesting that you're far enough on the risky side to feel that owning or carrying a firearm makes sense. At least for me, I disagree.

The issue, which seems unusually hard for some of you guys to accept, is that I am nowhere near being in a position where that level of preparedness is remotely warranted. I'd bet neither are any of you, but that's your business and you can feel free to prepare as you see fit.

But at this point this is coming off like doomsday preppers pointing at reasonable people who refuse to dig up their backyard to create a bunker and stockpile food claiming, "Yeah...well you can go frick yourself if the day ever comes that you need to get underground and have cans of creamed corn!" Right...but until that day comes I'm not going to dig up my yard, stockpile canned goods, and prepare for what's incredibly unlikely to happen to me.

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headed to Glacier NP in a couple of weeks. Bringing a fresh can of bear spray out there, no guns.

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If they allow it, get those little pull string flares. Fit in the pocket, make a loud noise, lots of smoke and shoots a ball of heat about 30 yards. Works when nothing else does. I had to use them several times last year.

IdI rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it. I grew up hunting and shooting guns. I have also worked a bunch in really bad neighborhoods, so yes, I have been in many positions where using it is a likely situation.

I have an alarm system, motion lights that light up my entire yard, a motion alarm at my gate, and cameras. Am I gonna get robbed any time soon? Not likely. Have I done everything I can to stop that from happening? Yes.

I'm not pushing anything on you. Do what you want. I am having to justify myself in this thread more than anything.

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But I really don't understand how a gun makes anyone feel safer.

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What the hell?

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Is this your best argument against gun control?!
Look up the statistics of innocent people murdered by guns vs.being deliberately run over by a vehicle.
Think I'd rather face a nut job trying to hit me with his vehicle versus one with a gun any day.
You're gonna need a stronger argument against gun control.

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Whats the argument for gun control?

We have gun control.

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Whats the argument for gun control?

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Have you not been paying attention?

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I read that as if you are attacked you would like to be armed. So can you guarantee with 100% certainty that you will never be attacked? I understand it is a low percentage, but it 100% that it won't happen?

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I'd be interested to examine how people that think like you assess other risks in their daily lives.

I'd be willing to guess that a lot of people going out to buy guns right now don't wear seat belts, or otherwise demonstrate disregard for far more likely threats in their daily lives. I say that in full support of anyone that wishes to exercise their right to bear arms. I'd just be interested to see how they reconcile the odds of being shot by a maniac with the odds of flying through their windshield on any given day.

Unlikely events happen all the time. I think it's important to understand that.

I don't own a gun. I grew up with them and have shot many. I don't think they truly provide protection. I think in many situations pulling one could make the situation worse. I live in Oakland and don't need one. I doubt in many areas the threat is great enough to require one. However I don't care how many guns someone else owns either.