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re: Question about the quality of Venezuelan crude oil...

Posted on 1/5/26 at 11:38 am to
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 1/5/26 at 11:38 am to
I believe anywhere with a cracking unit and a comer can handle some of it.
Posted by dukesilver72
Texas
Member since Feb 2015
1238 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 11:40 am to
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I believe anywhere with a cracking unit and a comer can handle some of it.


Shell Norco has a DCU and FCC and can not run heavy sours.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 1/5/26 at 11:40 am to
Is it the sulfur that they can’t process?
Posted by dukesilver72
Texas
Member since Feb 2015
1238 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 11:41 am to
As far as i know.
Posted by Butterfinger1
Member since Apr 2015
101 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 11:43 am to
Shell Norco has a Coker, but it's a very small one.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42303 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 11:43 am to
I guess shell would just send the sours to Convent and then convent would send their super heavy bottoms back to Norco for processing.
Posted by ColoradoAg03
Denver, CO
Member since Oct 2012
6659 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 11:44 am to
Most of our refineries were built to process their heavy sour crude.
Posted by dukesilver72
Texas
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 1/5/26 at 11:46 am to
The Norco cokers are small. Marathon Galveston cokers are small too, but they have a resid hydrotreater that is a monster. Valero Port Arthur cokers are massive.
Posted by Papoo63
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Jan 2022
289 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 11:55 am to
Keep that Mudd over there!!!
Posted by bamabenny
Member since Nov 2009
15762 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 12:00 pm to
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I was VP of a refinery in Tuscaloosa, and we regularly processed Ven crude with our coker unit.


I do some business with that refinery. Retired now?
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
20075 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 12:00 pm to
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Question about the quality of Venezuelan crude oil...

Doesn't matter about the quality of the oil if its free.....................
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
29240 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 12:21 pm to
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Doesn't matter about the quality of the oil if its free.....................


Why would it be free?
Posted by TexasHand
Mississippi
Member since Sep 2013
1423 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 12:44 pm to
Chevron Pascagoula….. that’s our bread and butter baby.
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37635 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

Shell Norco has a DCU and FCC and can not run heavy sours.


Isn't it a RCCU not a FCCU at Norco?
Posted by SalE
At the beach
Member since Jan 2020
3128 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 1:45 pm to
Valero is capable...it's a very heavy product that few refineries can handle. Plus, storage is an issue as tanks are not abundant enough resulting in a lot placed in open pits.
Posted by TexasHand
Mississippi
Member since Sep 2013
1423 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 3:48 pm to
We want that stuff you can pave a road with… the knuckle draggers in the Coker like it when you have to shovel it into the Coke drums it’s so thick. Thick as train smoke!
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
9924 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 3:51 pm to
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We want that stuff you can pave a road with


Out of curiosity, how is asphalt stored after it is processed out of the crude oil? Solid that is ready to melt at use?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78439 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 3:54 pm to
Stays heated. Getting it liquid once solidified is tough but does happen.
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
22286 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 4:52 pm to
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I do some business with that refinery. Retired now?


Yep, I have been retired for several years and moved to rural Texas.
Posted by Alltheway Tigers!
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
8022 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 5:04 pm to
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I know very little of the O+G industry but a while back I took a vacation to Aruba and there was a huge refinery on the island. Someone told me that's where the Venezuelan crude used to go (right off their shore) but now it was mostly shut down and not operating.



That would be the refinery on St. Croix, USVI. Been shutdown for a while and needs some works. However, the slow down in permits and money have been largely the associated with little Venezuelan crude to process. Also, US government did not want a cheap refinery so close to Venezuela to fund a government they did not like.

With the proposed changes, that may change the equation quite nicely for USVI. Huge number of jobs for an area that can use it.
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