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re: Quantum tech is something we need to back off from as a human species

Posted on 12/6/19 at 12:30 pm to
Posted by WoWyHi
Member since Jul 2009
23339 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 12:30 pm to
I actually think this is awesome. Can I use it to play Call of Duty with no lag?
Posted by HollierThanThou
Member since Jan 2012
6262 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 12:30 pm to
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The winner sees all and controls all.


Better win then
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60108 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 12:31 pm to
It's got nothing to do with us atm. That's my point. No one is paying attention right now and won't be until it's too late
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 12:32 pm to
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if the get quantum decryption, couldnt they also have quantum encryption?

serious question


Quantum encryption already exists and it is utterly unbreakable.

I'm not talking "it's really hard to break like modern public key schemes, but maybe vulnerable in the future", but "absolutely, 100% provably mathematically, physically, and informationally secure and unbreakable".

As always with cryptography, the devil is in the details and proper implementation is still a bit difficult and improper implementation can leave it vulnerable to attack, but it's getting better.

Essentially, it uses a one-time pad, which is provably 100% secure if implemented properly. Spies have used it for decades. The idea is that you and I have exact copies of a pad of random characters that serves as the key. You use your pad to encrypt, I use mine to decrypt. If you don't know what's on our pads, the best you can do with an intercepted message is generate every possible plaintext of the same length. The problem is in me and you sharing that pad of random characters without someone else seeing it. It's logistically difficult and keeping that pad absolutely secret is crucial to keeping the message unbreakable, so there are issues with ensuring nobody ever has access to a pad to make a copy of it.

Quantum cryptography is simply a method by which you and I can agree on a one-time pad at will when one of us wants to send a message by freely communicating over a distance AND assuming that anyone in the world can listen in. The scheme uses the polarization of light as a means to share a one-time pad without giving anyone listening in the middle any information as to what parts of the transmission will actually be used to form the one-time pad. Sender and receiver can agree on a one-time pad without the eavesdropper in the middle being able to gain any useful information, even with full access to all information transmitted. Further, the scheme provides the sender and receiver at either end an almost perfect indication if someone in the middle is eavesdropping in the first place.
This post was edited on 12/6/19 at 12:45 pm
Posted by DatNolaClap
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2015
1921 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 12:33 pm to
Couldn’t someone just invent encryption software using quantum computing? That’s once we understand it a little more. Excuse me if I sound dumb. It’s because I am.
Posted by LSUGolfman
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2019
182 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 12:33 pm to
What should we do?
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
34003 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 12:35 pm to
I am curious as to what the power consumption is for these quantum computers.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 12:35 pm to
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It’s us or Russia/China/whoever. Let’s get it first.


The military likely already has it. Probably for decades.
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
5865 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 12:37 pm to
I was just hearing about this the other day from one of the data center engineers at my company. He's legit terrified of it.
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
7918 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 12:44 pm to
Best encryption is printing it on a typewriter and then physically securing the document in a military facility like Fort Knox. All these data security problems for highly classified stuff is simple, don’t use computers.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82042 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 1:09 pm to
If quantum computing becomes a thing, there will be no such thing as digital security anymore. It truly is frightening. Passwords, encryption, blockchain...all rendered useless
Posted by KirkLazarus
Member since Aug 2017
3574 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 1:12 pm to
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We are heading for a trainwreck.



I look forward to Skynet taking over They are going to make the world a better place
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
72720 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 1:12 pm to
But muh free 2 Day Delivery....
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133213 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 1:14 pm to
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Will Quantum TD allow embedding of videos and trashy FB posts so we don’t have to click a link?


Did you know there’s a way to turn a link into a gif?

And it’s just a short jump to turn a short video into a gif?

LINK ]



Click the gif
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24993 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 1:26 pm to
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So is there some 100,000 year old scientist laying around still composing the problem? If the answer takes 10,000 years, then the question must take much, much, longer, no? Or at least the same amount of time. And how do they know if the answer takes 10,000 years to solve? How do they know the answer is correct? Wouldn't it have taken the computer programmers/scientists a minimum of 10,000 years to answer said question in order to check said question?


You can't seriously be this obtuse.

In the simplest terms, create a problem that then as X number of possible input combinations to test and the best supercomputer can test them at Y speeds; therefore, X/Y yields time required to solve. It's not this simple and I presume they are using a lot of statistics to calculate the time to solve but that's the general premise.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 1:30 pm to
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So is there some 100,000 year old scientist laying around still composing the problem? If the answer takes 10,000 years, then the question must take much, much, longer, no? Or at least the same amount of time. And how do they know if the answer takes 10,000 years to solve? How do they know the answer is correct? Wouldn't it have taken the computer programmers/scientists a minimum of 10,000 years to answer said question in order to check said question?


SEC! SEC! SEC!
Posted by Tortious
ATX
Member since Nov 2010
5650 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 1:34 pm to
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Essentially, it uses a one-time pad, which is provably 100% secure if implemented properly. Spies have used it for decades. The idea is that you and I have exact copies of a pad of random characters that serves as the key. You use your pad to encrypt, I use mine to decrypt. If you don't know what's on our pads, the best you can do with an intercepted message is generate every possible plaintext of the same length. The problem is in me and you sharing that pad of random characters without someone else seeing it. 


Wasn't this basically the German Enigma machine concept which Turing cracked?
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
42010 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 1:35 pm to
Yeah, I hope I'm long dead before quantum computing becomes mainstream.

Kiss modern encryption standards goodbye.
Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
10482 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 1:37 pm to
Can I get one to mine bitcoin? I'll have thousands in a month.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
42010 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 1:38 pm to
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Wasn't this basically the German Enigma machine concept which Turing cracked?



Yes but that's all encryption in general, not just Enigma.
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